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<br />LT: So, there’s no way I can tell someone that I’m on a GMAC Commission. That’s just wrong. <br /> <br />SW: You could as long as it’s not being attributed to… <br /> <br />LT: \[Unclear\] <br /> <br />SW: …. like a public testimony. There’s different avenues in which you can say, “Yes, I’m a GMAC <br />Commissioner.” You can attend a meeting as a GMAC Commissioner as long as you’re no longer <br />– you’re not espousing particular positions of GMAC – so the problem or the issue lies in the <br />testimony. <br /> <br />LT: So, I cannot claim the title – like l cannot say, “Aloha, my name is Leomana Turalde. I’m a <br />professional hunter and also on the Game Commission. <br /> <br />SW: Because already it’s going to be saying that you’re providing your testimony as a hunter and as a <br />GMAC Commissioner, which is representing you. <br /> <br />LT: OK. I guess I just cannot then ‘cause that’s… <br /> <br />SW: You really should not. <br /> <br />LT: OK. So, I can, but I shouldn’t, right, ‘cause cannot and should not… I’m just trying to clarify this <br />‘cause if we go up and give one speech someplace it’s really important for people to know that, <br />hey, I’m so qualified that I got selected by the politicians – I didn’t select myself – I put myself… <br /> <br />SW: Yeah, and so… <br /> <br />LT: And so, it’s like I cannot even say… <br /> <br />SW: So that would be using your position to gain an access benefit as an individual because you’d be <br />gaining additional credibility as a GMAC Commissioner in that particular setting. <br /> <br />LT: So, being a Commissioner is not supposed to get you any credibility? <br /> <br />SW: It’s not supposed to benefit you additionally in any other way outside of what your personage <br />would do, would do. <br /> <br />LT: So, there’s no – so you cannot introduce yourself as a Commissioner, as a… <br /> <br />SW: No, ‘cause that’s where it strays over the line of lobbying. Right? <br /> <br />LT: Well, \[unclear\] advisory commission so we can advise… <br /> <br />SW: You can advise and you have the Charter which outlines the ways in which you can advise, right? <br />So that’s how you can advise, but advice, advice that you’re providing through the Charter is not <br />the same as lobbying. <br />LT: OK. <br />7 <br /> <br /> <br />