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Salary Commission <br />MR. FARAHL Yes. <br />January 17, 2024 <br />MS. FRENZ: So, I guess, this is that's a question that only you guys can answer. Do you have <br />enough information to determine that the new OSCER position—director for the agency is <br />equivalent? This is the Department of Human Resources saying the most equivalent in size, in <br />their opinion based on the number of employees is "x"—does that mean their job duties will be <br />similar to that of the County Auditor's? I personally couldn't tell you if you're thinking—if the <br />thought is that this is an EM3 and, frankly, Civil Defense is an EM5—the duties are far, far <br />different. <br />So, it'sit might be a little too soon, but that's an opinion you guys have to come up with, <br />right—my opinion doesn't matter in that regard. <br />So, I think if we want to allow Managing Director Sako to determine that it would be fair and <br />appropriate and legal to extend the contract for the current interim administrator, we could come <br />back next month and see what position the Mayor's Administration has because they have their <br />own attorneys that would advise in that regard—and we could re -assess then. <br />But Imy only concern as your Counsel isdo you have enough information now on such a <br />new department that it—what seems apparent to me is you guys talk and ask questions you're <br />not really sure based on the information you have, exactly what this position will be doing. So, <br />how would you come up with those proposed findings for what a salary deserves based on the <br />findings submitted. <br />And I also want to—I see another microphone onI want to make sure that we give <br />Commissioner Nakama an opportunity to speak. I know she was trying to jump in. Can you <br />hear us okay, Commissioner Nakama? <br />MS. NAKAMA: I can hear you, but I'm not sure that you can hear me. <br />MS. FRENZ: We can. I think it's just a little tricky when we have ZOOM because it—we start <br />to talk over each other without realizing it. So, I'm going to turn to my counterpart here on the <br />right who wants to speak, and then maybe we could turn it over to Commissioner Nakama, if <br />that's okay? One second. <br />MS. NAKAMA: Okay, that's fine. <br />MS. KAWA`AUHAU: Commissioner Kawa`auhau, I just wanted to say the same thing. I just <br />want to say maybe I can—we can slow down a little bit because I know there's comment coming <br />from ZOOM and we also had comments coming from other people here that have something to <br />say before we decide and make motions and all that. <br />So, I just wanted to request that we slow down a tad. <br />Page 13 <br />