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more people moving in, locals moving out and they not used to all this big influx but, the <br />Hawaiians brought these pigs over many, many years ago, up on the mountains, higher <br />elevations, there’s still pure blood local pigs yet, um, I think there’s a need to be blood tests <br />done and see if the lower elevations have that pure blooded pig yet and not cross-contaminated <br />or whatever because technically now they become an endangered species not an invasive <br />species, so… <br /> <br />SW: You don’t want them to be endangered because you still want to be able to hunt them. <br /> <br />AA: \[Unclear\] you can hunt the bad ones but not the good ones. <br /> <br />SW: OK. I’m just letting you know. <br /> <br />AA: I know. <br /> <br />LT: Mahalo. OK. Let’s move forward with… <br /> <br />AK: That’s the Plan. All of them and all you folks have shared has been extremely helpful and if the <br />Commission would like we can provide periodic updates… <br /> <br />LT: Yes, ma’am. <br /> <br />AK: …. on how this progresses but we also invite all of you to ask that we \[unclear\] and any or all <br />aspects of this work. Can’t do it alone. <br /> <br />LT: Yeah, thank you very much. You know, I enjoy the whole part about having a certification and <br />having people in the community who – like this Commission – I always ask questions to try and <br />find perks for people – like what’s the perk of you doing this? It’s a lot of work and so if I can get <br />some people certified to where this can be something that they look forward into growing into <br />this position, you know, like a community leader in a hunting aspect – I’d get them free gear or <br />something, you know, something to do because this work is about volunteers, right, they’re <br />gonna contract this out, so I think the certification part might be a important part. <br />Commissioners anymore? <br /> <br />RD: Yeah, one, one, Duerr, District – 1. Ashley, picking up on Abraham’s, you know, the, the, that <br />instead of in like branding the pig as a nuisance – the pig’s pua’a – and ahupua’a was the place <br />of the pig – so it was a really center point of conservation in Hawaii and now Kamapua’a was the <br />pig god was a high deity so, you know, giving respect to the pig would also give respect to the <br />people who are with the pigs, pua’a because hunters over the years, hunters have really not <br />been at the table with a lot of this – this is really the first time so it’s a real engagement that’s <br />meaningful, yeah. <br /> <br />AK: I’m glad to hear that, thank you. I hope that the \[unclear\] demonstrated that while certain <br />\[unclear\] of the population have said, you know, pigs are troubles in their neighborhood. Like I <br />have this one poor auntie – her neighbor – literally feeds all the wild pigs. My neighbor does too, <br />but they may become dinner for us. She doesn’t know that. But like I think all the elements of <br />this Plan have demonstrated what an underutilized resource… <br />17 <br /> <br /> <br />