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AK: Thanks for your time and thanks for the invitation.
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<br />SW: If you do want to provide any updates to GMAC as far as anything you can email the Board’s
<br />secretary, Barbara Kossow.
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<br />AK: Yes. She’s the one that invited me to the meeting and Bob.
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<br />?: Thanks, Ashley.
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<br />b. Dr. Robert “Bob” Nishimoto, representative from the State of Hawai’i,
<br />Office of Planning and Sustainable Development, Marine and Coastal
<br />Zone Advocacy Council (MACZAC), Ke Kahu O Na Kumu Wai,
<br />presenting “Everything that happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas; but
<br />everything that happens mauka does not stay mauka; a mauka-makai
<br />perspective on coastal fishery management”.
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<br />LT: All right. Thank you very much – that was a great presentation and a good update for all of us.
<br />Mahalo. OK. Moving forward to 5b. Dr. Robert “Bob” Nishimoto. Welcome.
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<br />RN: Aloha. \[Unclear\] something mayor. Thank you so much, Bob, for inviting me. Again, I’ve cleared,
<br />you know, just two things – I’m from Hamakua, I’m from Ninole, I grew up there – I grew up in
<br />the days of the Plantation strikes – so fishing is really not a game activity for subsistence fishing,
<br />yeah, when that comes to social inter-action, so I belong to the Hamakua Advisory Committee –
<br />the action committee so there’s this issue there at Hamakua Advisory Plan – the same thing I’m
<br />with the Coastal Zone Management called MACZAC – they advocate for fishing \[unclear\] and I
<br />represent Hamakua side. So those of you who are not from Hamakua bear with me because I
<br />understand that one size does not fit all. OK. If you’re from Kona it’s a different strategy, you’re
<br />Hamakua it’s a different strategy, so I’m coming with a heavy bias but what I’m coming here is,
<br />um, I’m a kanaka-haole, I’m not a kanaka maoli so I don’t understand but I really appreciate
<br />because as an immigrant I have to country. Think about that. I’ve no – I can’t go home. But I’m
<br />so fortunate that Hawaiians have accepted all of us and we’re – they’re very open for us to use
<br />their terminology and so thank you – so if I miss-speak I want your correct me because I want to
<br />learn but this is all I have, it’s what I have. But I take great pleasure in idea of sharing, I mean,
<br />you’re all petitioners here, you know, it’s good to hear practitioners, um, one thing I’ve noticed
<br />again is speaking from the heart – we would all go to continent to go to school or have relatives
<br />or think about think about that – we never go to the other side of the Pacific – only recently
<br />people that talk about, eh, maybe we belong more to the Pacific Islanders rather than to the
<br />mainland. When I first worked for the state, one of the issues there I really faced was people
<br />telling me that I’m stupid, I don’t know what I’m talking about, I’m the one – all my life I grew up
<br />in Hamakua catching the opah and the \[unclear\]. \[Unclear\], opihi that kind of stuff – temptation
<br />days, yeah? They told me I’m stupid, what are they talking about. \[Unclear\] Normally we don’t
<br />talk like that, yeah? Um, well then, I used to say, wait a minute. \[Unclear\] report in my back yard
<br />where I used to go swim all the time, yeah, there no more oopu over there and then I realized,
<br />oh, my goodness – I looked at their methodology – ‘cause I practiced their science too, I
<br />understand how they do \[unclear\]. These guys are using electro-shockers from the mainland to
<br />sample trout and they’re using rubber boots to go \[unclear\]. You ever used rubber boots in the
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