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<br />mean, I think if you put yourself in their position, it's just a nightmare. And you know,
<br />don't want to be part of adding to their nightmare dealing with the County.
<br />Okabe: I think that Commissioner Wilkinson is basically saying that every time it comes
<br />up, it's just extended, extended, extended. So, can that communication be expressed
<br />to them?
<br />Takase: Yes, and we'll
<br />Okabe: And how we as a Commission we can help the process along so that doesn't
<br />happen? You know what I mean, so we try to be proactive in a sense that we
<br />understand that an extension is needed, but then you know I think that Commissioner
<br />Wilkinson is saying that, you know like I mentioned before, she just wasn't keep on
<br />extending, extending, extending it, right? I think.
<br />Wilkinson: Where do you draw the line, especially when each of their doors that
<br />they're trying to go through keeps getting closed on them, how long do we just keep this
<br />open, especially when it looks like there's going to need to be some major revisions
<br />done to the application as it is, just for you know conversation. Plus, I don't feel in this
<br />letter, I don't feel the sense of, we're going to get it done no matter what, knowing that
<br />once we do get approved, we'll make money. It's sort of like the "cart before the horse"
<br />here, if we can do this, we can make enough money to do it, but we can't do it, so
<br />where do you draw the line in terms of extensions?
<br />Frenz: I just want to clarify for Commissioner Okabe, it's great discussion points but
<br />that's where it stops, right? You can't project, I think it would be unfair to the party to
<br />project whether or not they'll have a sufficient basis for good cause. These will be noted
<br />for the record, that Liquor Department will converse with the applicant, and we'll see
<br />what a year brings, and what their basis is then, if any because it may be different, it
<br />may be greater, it may be worse, right? And you will assess at that time, but it would be
<br />premature to add conditions now, I think.
<br />Okabe: Yes, it's just for discussion. But I think that the Commission needs to
<br />understand that if this situation continues to come out, this conversation that we're
<br />having today will have some impact when the next time comes up.
<br />Taniguchi: Chair, so you know, I can see their point but being on the side helping
<br />businesses all these years, it's not easy. You know, you don't want to put anybody out
<br />of business. And, you know dealing with these Departments, I've seen many, many,
<br />many, many customers that just, I mean you hitting your head against the wall a lot of
<br />times. So, I know Mr. Okabe was our Managing Director, you know they try to help
<br />things go along too, but it's not easy. And the thing I like about this Department is our
<br />Director always looks at trying to help people, you don't want to put them out of
<br />business. Even when Luquin's went down with the fire, we had to approve a temporary
<br />just so they could sell liquor by the food truck. But they're great points, but it's easy to
<br />sit back and say we not going do it the next time, but I'm not in favor of saying that, I just
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