2024_06_18 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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June 18, 2024 - GMAC Minutes fencing creates problems – all you’ve got to do is go to PTA – you put a fence in – you created an unnatural system where these animals are now crammed and they have nothing better to do except root around, which is where the larvae is – it’s in the ground – all it takes is free anything, removing bushes or whatever causes it, so, I’ve been tired of seeing these little things from specialists that are just cherry picked and if I’ve – we’ve had this before and we talked about Puuwaawaa. You’ve got cattle, you’ve got sheep, you’ve got pigs, you’ve got game birds, you’ve got everything, and the ROD is minimal. And they don’t know why but they’ll pull this out and say the animals are causing the ROD – well, why isn’t it causing it over here if it’s that true it would scientifically here. We get these experts that just cherry pick here in these meetings we’ve been over this hundreds of times… LT: Sorry for interrupting but do you have a question for her that she can answer right now? BL: No, it’s just these things you’re saying – you’re showing these results and they’re skewed, the cotton seed, you don’t mention the fact that they’re removed from the gossypol before they feed it to the animals. KL: They actually aren’t. BL: According to who, Google and everybody else that I’ve looked at they said cotton seed – the first thing they do when they process it is they remove the gossypol ‘cause it is a toxin. And it does, yeah, like you said, you didn’t mention the fact that it’s not meant for poultry, for birds – so there’s a whole thing where we don’t know that that’ll \[unclear\]. KL: Let me, actually we do know. One thing we know is it doesn’t kill them. Unlike… BL: Just because it doesn’t kill them doesn’t make things – if we sterilize them \[unclear\]. Same eggs… I mean, look at DDT, it doesn’t kill birds but look at the problems with DDT and that was deemed safe by the government for many years. I’m just saying there’s a lot of issues, we’ve hashed this over before and I appreciate you coming in a hostel group environment like this and \[unclear\] but, there’s a lot of things and like you said this Commission has been said a lot of stuff, and there’s a lot of things and like the fencing and stuff like that. KL: Happy to respond when you’re willing to let me respond. BL: All right. Feel free… KL: OK. I totally agree about fencing. Right now – that’s the only thing that’s effective in protecting the native species and protecting crops somewhat and it’s not – there’s a fence going up behind me that I hate because there’s been so many native plants planted and now they need to be protected. So now, for the first time ever, my family has been there since the 1800s – there’s fencing going in the back of the valley because of the pigs. Birds, yes. Gossypol is effective – what happens - and they formulated this for swine because Dr. Loper lives in Texas – there didn’t used to be a problem – there wasn’t then there became a problem, so he knew how to do it, so he dealt with it. It says that don’t feed it to poultry – but then if you feed it to poultry the eggs don’t hatch, and the yolk is green. It does not kill the birds, unlike pigs, which do kill birds. All our ground nesters, there’s nothing more dangerous for them than the pigs. 16