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June 18, 2024 - GMAC Minutes <br />KL: Not as a body but I, myself, have. Snares I don’t – I think they’re illegal for a reason – maybe <br />not in Hawaii County but on Oahu. <br /> <br />BL: No, they are illegal. <br /> <br />KL: They are legal? <br /> <br />BL: Illegal. <br /> <br />KL: Illegal, oh, OK. <br /> <br />BL: And that’s why we have a pig problem ‘cause they made it illegal. <br /> <br />KL: Well, you know… <br /> <br />BL: Yeah, because they’re effective and they work. <br /> <br />KL: But they’re not nearly as effective as a Pig Brig and one of the reasons that, that small scale <br />trapping doesn’t work is the pigs, as you know, are smart. And they learn to avoid the traps. So, <br />when the reason Pig Brigs are so effective is that you get the whole sander – so you don’t – <br />you’re not – you don’t have the escapes teaching the other pigs not to go there – so Pig Brigs <br />are awesome. <br /> <br />BL: That’s cause they’re \[unclear\]. They’ll figure it out cause they’re more intelligent than half the <br />people. <br /> <br />KL: Yeah, \[unclear\]. <br /> <br />LT: Thank you, sir, if there’s no more questions, um, there’s a question? <br /> <br />RD: One more question, one last question. How does HogStop – if we know it’s an effective on hogs <br />and perhaps other animals – how does it affect people if they eat meat that has HogStop in it? <br /> <br />KL: OK. It doesn’t but you don’t have to take my word for it. Let’s see, are we still – I have a video <br />from Dr. Loper talking about it, but I don’t want to take time… <br /> <br />RD: It doesn’t, it doesn’t, that’s self-sufficient. <br /> <br />KL: So let me, let me explain why it doesn’t and that is that the gossypol – first off – the animal has <br />to eat a certain amount in a certain amount of time for it to be effective and HogStop is not fed <br />to them like food – it is only given intermittently and that is really crucial, so you don’t have – <br />you’re not paying for it to feed them – you’re paying for it to be birth control. So, you only give <br />it for a few days and then you don’t give it for a few weeks. And then you do that again. And it’s <br />a cycle. And the active ingredient comes out does not stay in the animals’ tissue. It is wholly <br />excreted within 5 days so you… <br /> <br />RD: If the hog is shot on the first day, the same day that the hog has eaten HogStop and perhaps <br />the hog has eaten more HogStop than HogStop should be eaten – does that affect people? <br />19 <br /> <br />