2024-07-25 Fire Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Fire Commission Regular Session Minutes July 25, 2024 Page 7 Commissioner Hirakami referred to the response times in the report and asked if those were statewide targets. He noted that the percentages seem low and don't indicate how improvements would be made. He also asked for clarification because he found the data hard to understand. Chief Todd explained that the 80-second and 60-second response time targets come from NFPA standards. The data is published to encourage these conversations at their stations. However, he acknowledged that the data might not be fully accurate or useful, as performance can vary significantly between stations. The response times of 2:54 and 2:12 in the report are likely incorrect, with the island's average response time being closer to 8 to 10 minutes. Due to the island's size, achieving a 6-minute response time is unrealistic. He also mentioned that the charts are prepopulated with national data, and they haven't yet figured out how to adjust the data output to better align with their goals. Commissioner Hirakami suggested that an average response time for districts would be more realistic. Chair Kosaki sought clarification on the average turn out time, asking if it referred to the time from when the alarm is received to when they say they're responding. Chief Todd confirmed that this is correct. Chair Kosaki stated that 2 minutes and 54 seconds seems like a long time. While he understands the challenges of long response times due to the island's geography, he believes the average turn out time should be significantly lower. Chair Kosaki suggested that, with a Battalion Chief now in Training, it might be beneficial for that person to meet with the training captains, develop a plan, and present it to the Assistant Chief or Chief Todd. Chief Todd acknowledged that this idea had been mentioned in the past and confirmed he would reach out to the training Battalion Chief to ensure their involvement. Commissioner Hirakami inquired about the process for acknowledging and officially recording written communication, such as the written testimony received for today's meeting. DCC Salas-Ferguson informed the commission about Rule 7, reminding all commissioners to review and familiarize themselves with it. This rule permits the public to submit requests for the commission to inquire, provided they are submitted 10 days before the next hearing, etc. He and Ms. Correa can review the written testimony and reach out to the individual, asking for the necessary specifics under Rule 7, so it can be added to the agenda for the commission's consideration. Chair Kosaki asked if any commissioners had questions regarding the chief's report. Commissioner Cushnie inquired about any updates on the helicopters, including pilot retention, the third helicopter, the 135, etc.