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science has become much better than just reef walls, so, we’re approaching fishermen, where, <br />how, what kind of structures, what kind of fish we should be targeting to increase habitat for. <br />Mr. Duerr, he kind of put out a blast – citizen input to that questionnaire that we had to kind of <br />garnish input – we have been, like I said, we have been going to fishery meetings, we have, – <br />there’s this guy kind of in charge of doing the outreach or, you know, citizen input from <br />fisherman so he came over to Hilo – he’s on Oahu – he came over to Hilo and did some table <br />sitting out at Tokunaga’s and I think he also went to J. Hara’s Store too – I not too sure – but just <br />to solicit input and kind of met with fishermen and stuff like that – so those are the efforts going <br />on with that project and I’ll pause there before I go on to the next topic – if there are questions. <br /> <br />LT: Not seeing any. You can move forward. <br /> <br />RO: OK. Shoot. So, the next topic was DAR issues for East Hawaii and, to tell the truth, I never read <br />the agenda till this morning – I thought I was gonna talk about just general updates like I do for <br />this other group but so like what is the issues. <br /> <br />LT: Yeah. <br /> <br />RO: Yeah, what is the issues and so like for me it’s hard to speak issues in East Hawaii and I, will <br />though – I have a list. <br /> <br />LT: Yeah, e kala mai – this one is just the issues on Hawaii Island at the end – so just a general <br />update for the Island – period – no need just be, \[unclear\] the whole Island so… <br /> <br />RO: OK. I get those updates, OK, yeah, I get the – let me pull ‘em up. Now I get it. OK. <br /> <br />LT: Kona being neglected again. <br /> <br />RO: These updates I give come from Oahu – it comes from our rule-making program manager, his <br />name is David Sakoda and, there are rules, OK, the ones that apply to Hawaii Island – that’s the <br />ones I’m gonna focus on, aquarium permit for West Hawaii – from what I understand that is <br />going to the Board this Friday. So that is for final action, so the aquarium stuff is a big deal going <br />on for our division, I mean, I don’t know if you guys follow ‘em that much, but it’s a big deal, so <br />this is just the permits so a bunch of people got together to write an impact assessment <br />statements and now these other guys who had paid for that – now I think so they going pay the <br />– we are moving forward with permitting these guys so it’s gonna be controversial if you get <br />interested into aquarium in Hawaii – that is a controversial topic, but after that we gotta make <br />the rules for that, for those permittees – so that one is, on hold pending the development of the <br />rules – we never fully developed ‘em yet – so there’s gonna be a lot of state code engagement <br />for that one. At least public hearings, the pakukui rules – that’s another one – that is I think for <br />West Hawaii, I think right now, there’s a ban on pakukui harvest in West Hawaii from what I <br />understand, and so they are going to go to the Board, I think this week too – this week Friday <br />too for a plan – but this one is not for final, this is for public hearing so they going ask permission <br />from the Board to go out to do public hearings on some potential rules for pakukui – like I said <br />right now is the ban but I think, it’s gonna be, not a ban moving forward but more rules than had <br />before – I don’t think there was any harvest limits on pakukui prior. I know Milolii just put in <br />some though. Some other things related to updates – these are more statewide things but they <br />14 <br /> <br />