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they're put, they're planning on fencing off this red area straight line here, ah, this is a <br /> NARS so and it's completely fenced so I don't see any opposition within this potential <br /> fenced area. <br /> BL: I wonder if they want to put a fence across the fenced area. <br /> AA: Maybe because they're still doing eradication controls and that's probably an easier way <br /> for them to, ah, to do some eradication, ah, but a NARs area is pretty much 100% <br /> eradication. <br /> IK: Which, um, agency is doing this? <br /> AA: Natural Area Reserve— NARs—that's also through DLNR. So that's one of DLNR's <br /> branches. So, this is what actually brought me here today—is this area — Puu Makaala <br /> they potentially want to fence off this kipuka koa unit so I've actually hunted on this <br /> area— I hunt all in this area here—so this blue line is the Puu Makaala Natural Area <br /> Reserve, right, so, all fenced off. They also do pretty much 100% eradication, pretty <br /> much all NARs areas is fenced off and is 100%eradication. There still potentially might <br /> be game in these areas— but I cannot really answer questions, you have to go back and <br /> call NARs and ask them, but this kipuka koa unit—it is open as it is now—they're talking <br /> about bull dozing this, purple line here, which, that is right next to the lava flow so they <br /> going bull doze along the lava flow here and install new fence and then they're planning <br /> on the green line is existing in the forest. There's no fence or bull dozed roads—they're <br /> planning to bull doze a road through the forest and then this orange line here—that is <br /> an old, old, existing road from back in the military days—so they want to come here and <br /> they want to connect to this orange road that comes and, connect back into the Natural <br /> Area Reserve fence line here. So back in the days, back in the 80s I think—when Pig <br /> Hunters of Hawaii first started as a pretty strong group back then—they pretty much, <br /> came, they had discussions with DLNR and, they came up with the decisions that they <br /> was like -close this area off-seasonal, right, so in six months—from this upper area all <br /> the way to Tree Planting Road and you going up Stainback—everything on the right, on <br /> the right hand side is closed six months a year for the protection of our game species, <br /> which in here, in the forest is pigs along this lava corridor here—there's actually sheep <br /> up here— I have seen them, I have heard them, I never collected any of them because <br /> that's not my game of species to hunt, so, with them fencing off this area, this is like the <br /> migration route of the pigs come down either or so it will affect not just up here in this <br /> area but it will affect hunting up here and all the way down to the Tree Planting Road. <br /> And I'm coming here again to ask the Commission to write a letter to—in opposition of <br /> this fencing. I see their thing about, you know, protecting the koa forest here— but they <br /> don't need to take all this land because the koa forest is mainly like right in the middle <br /> here and it also goes into the NARs area here, so they don't need to take more than <br /> what they need to basically... <br /> IK: Do you know why? <br /> 10 <br />