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To: Planning Cultural Resources Commission
Subject: Fwd: TIME URGENT! Testimony needed NOW!
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One1 Investo.pdf; 2022-04-21 Leeward Exh D (Item 3_4 Hawaii One1 PL-
REZ-2021-014_PL-SMA-2022-.pdf; 2022-06-08 Cultural Resources Commission
Agenda.pdf
Aloha Cultural Resources Commission,
PLEASE SAY NO TO ANY DESECRATION OF OUR SACRED LANDS!
Nana Hou! as this project is on your agenda for December 11, 2024 Location is in Hilo.
Why is this, should it not have been in Kona where this land is located.
I'm attaching the meeting back in 2022. So not to forget, this is important to keep.
Much is happening as our lands of this area especially now concerns are our Kahalu'u Bay.
What we do Mauka, has a direct effect Makai.
This Thursday is a meeting at the County to address insights on developing aquatic ecosystem
restoration measures,
this will be held with Kohala Center, the US Army Corps of Engineers, and the Hawaii County of Parks
and Recreation.
To be held at Kona Civic Center at 5:30-6:30 PM.
Flooding erosion, pollution, sea level rising we need to not desecrate our Sacred Land.
It's our Kuleana to save IWI KUPUNA, WELL BENEATH THESE SACRED, "SECRET BURIALS OF OUR
ANCESTORS".
WE ARE BLESSED FROM LAKE WAIAU FOR AGRICULTURAL. ONCE ROOTED, WE DON'T HAVE TO WATER
OUR TREES AND PLANTS.
WE NEED TO PRESERVE THESE LAND OF OUR ALI'I FOR THE NOW AND NEXT GENERATION.
ONCE GONE, ITS GONE EVEN IF YOU TRY TO RESTORE ITS NOT THE SAME.
KAHALU'U HISTORIC DISTRICT REGISTRY CONTAINS THESE WORDS OF" SPIRITUAL FACTORS!!"
PLEASE RESPECT WHAT IS HERE AND LEAVE ALL OUR KUPUNA IWI'S BENEATH US TO REST IN PEACE.
I BELIEVE IN MANA, AND ITS OUR KULEANA TO PROTECT AND NOT DESTROY FOR KALA!
"SAVE AND CELEBRATE OUR LAND OF LANDSCAPE" SAID BY TERESA DURHAM ATA CULTURAL
HEARING BACK IN 2017
WHEN WE SAVED THE ADJACENT LAND OF 306 TIMESHARES.
MAHALO!
Simmy McMichael
Kahalu'u
PS:
THIS IS ALL OF 2022 SAME PROJECT FOR TOMORROW'S AGENDA!
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Cultural Resources Commission hearing THIS WEDNESDAY 6/8/22 at 10 am.
This is related to the Naniloa proposed subdivision makai of the LPH Kapukapu proposal adjacent to us.
It was deferred to the Cultural Commission by the Leeward Planning Commission on 4/21/21.Attached
are the transcripts from the Commission meeting as well as the transcript of the testifiers. (Note these
are from the in person (zoom) testimony, as I cannot find the written testimony on the County website
https://records.hawaiicounty.gov/weblink/Browse.aspx?startid=9110&dbid=1).
There were a number of issues raised with this project, including the County's lack of a tsunami zone
evacuation plan, traffic issues, water runoff issues, sewer issues, native species impact, the fact that
this application goes back to 2009 and expired in 2019, access to this parcel through a neighborhood,
history of the developer, among others. All of these and more remain valid.
The referral to the Cultural Resources Commission is based on the importance of having the archeologist
present and to address concerns regarding Special Management Area Permit application. LPC
Chairperson Vitousek stated (see Exhibit D, page 23):
Cultural Resources Commission could be an appropriate location to have that type of discussion on whether descendant
access issues are fully resolved in the burial treatment plan, whether additional descendant access and open space
requirements should be proposed that would mitigate the impact of this project on the cultural landscape. Some of the
things that were mentioned by the testifiers was the impact on the overall cultural landscape, and SHPD may
have site-by-site mitigations for each specific site that was identified in the archaeological inventory, but they
may not have considered the effect of the overall project on the landscape..." (emphasis added)
• The access off Ali'i Drive to this subdivision (which the developer owns), currently zoned Ag-5a, will destroy a
large section of the Great Wall of Kuakini, which is currently intact.
• The cultural and archeological sites on this parcel, which are significant beyond two burials, are part of a much
larger system, and are immediately adjacent to the Kahalu'u Historical District. (see attached)
• This project is one of several being proposed piecemeal. Two additional parcels are currently being proposed for
rezoning and development mauka within this ahupua'a alone
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LEEWARD PLANNING COMMISSION
COUNTY OF HAWAI`I
TESTIMONY TRANSCRIPT
APRIL 21, 2022
Public testimony regarding the applications of HAWAII ONE1 INVESTORS LLC
(FORMERLY KONA HEIGHTS LLC) (PL-REZ-2022-000014/AMEND REZ 07-075 AND
PL-SMA-2022-000012/AMEND SMA 07-024) was called to order at 9:56 a.m. via live stream
online meeting, with Chairman Michael Vitousek presiding.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Michael Vitousek, Michael Dela Cruz,
Clement "CJ" Kanuha III (until 10:23 a.m.), Zaheva Knowles, Mahina Paishon-Duarte, and
Faith "Faye" Yates
ABSENT AND EXCUSED: Barbara DeFranco
EX-OFFICIO MEMBER: Robyn Matsumoto (Department of Public Works)
ALSO IN ATTENDANCE: Malia Kekai, Esq. (Counsel for the Commission),
Jean Campbell, Esq. (Counsel for the Planning Department), Zendo Kern (Planning Director),
Maija Jackson (Planning Program Manager), Christian Kay (Planner), Tracie-Lee Camero
(Planner), Jessica Andrews (Planner), and Noriko Sauer (Commission Secretary)
APPLICANT: HAWAII ONE1 INVESTORS LLC (FORMERLY KONA HEIGHTS LLC)
(PL-REZ-2022-000014/AMEND REZ 07-075)
Application for a five (5)-year time extension to Condition E (Time to Secure Final Subdivision
Approval) and amendment to Condition K(Drainage Improvements) to allow for the option of
bonding the drainage improvements or the use of other acceptable forms of surety in lieu of the
construction of drainage improvements, prior to the issuance of Final Subdivision Approval, of
Ordinance 09 8, which reclassified 11.05 acres of land from an Agricultural 5-acres (A-5a) to a
Single-Family Residential-7,500 square feet (RS-7.5) zoned district. The property is located at
the south end of Naniloa Street adjacent to the White Sands Beach Estates and Keauhou View
Estates Subdivisions, Pahoehoe 1st, Kapala'alaea 2nd, North Kona, Hawaii, TMK: 7-7-008:121.
APPLICANT: HAWAII ONE1 INVESTORS LLC (FORMERLY KONA HEIGHTS LLC)
(PL-SMA-2022-000012/AMEND SMA 07-024)
Application for a five (5)-year time extension to Condition 4 (Time to Secure Final Subdivision
Approval) of SMA Use Permit No. 07-024, which was approved to allow the development of a
65-lot, single family residential subdivision and related improvements. The property is located at
the south end of Naniloa Street adjacent to the White Sands Beach Estates and Keauhou View
Estates Subdivisions, Pahoehoe 1st, Kapala'alaea 2nd, North Kona, Hawaii, TMK: 7-7-008:121.
Secretary's Note: "—" indicates indiscernible speech due to internet/technical difficulties or
simultaneous talk.
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ANDREWS: Chair, there's one more testifier for agenda Item 2 and also agenda Item 3.
VITOUSEK: Okay. We will proceed with that, and I'll just remind all the testifiers please try to
summarize your testimony within three minutes and if you've submitted written testimony,
please don't simply reread it, we have received the written testimony. After the testimony
Commissioners may have questions for you, and then, once it's completed you can log off the
Zoom and continue watching the meeting on YouTube.
Okay, our next in-person testifier is that Ms. Elizabeth Dunn? Okay, thank you. Aloha, good
morning.
DUNN: Good morning.
VITOUSEK: Would you please raise your right hand. Thank you. Do you swear or affirm to
tell the truth on the matter before the Leeward Planning Commission?
DUNN: Yes, I do.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo, please state your name and the town you live in and proceed with your
testimony.
DUNN: Good morning, Chair and members of the Planning Commission, my name is Elizabeth
Dunn, I live in Kailua-Kona and I'm talking about the project I know it's 2 applications but it's
the project that is coming off of Naniloa and has another access point on Ali`i. I reviewed the
just the staff report on Tuesday and prepared comments and questions and sort of global points
on Tuesday, and I sent that to the LPC. The email to get this presumably to the Planning
Commission so I'm just going to start from the standpoint that you have that. I'm not going to
go through it, because there are just questions on the project that I had some things that weren't
as clear to me as I would have as I was reading through it.
Some issues for the Planning Commission to consider if you think you're going to be approving
this project or recommending approval. What I really want to talk about is the sort of the global
issues that I see in this area, this part of my neighborhood where I live. This is 1 of 3
development projects that's in the area. It seems to kind of, once you use the Kahului-Keauhou
Parkway is some level of transportation in the area. I have a lot of concerns about that in terms
of what the status of that project is. I don't really understand where it is, if it's still a live project,
if it's kind of in the wings. I went to the Public Works department a number of months ago and
asked her staff reports and was told on that project that there aren't any. I have construction
drawings for what that project is, but I really want to understand where that project is in the
pipeline. Is it years off, decades off, I just feel I need to understand that, because that's a big
roadway that really will change the character of where I live.
As it relates to this particular project, I bristle with the fact that something that originally got
approved in 2009 is now being reconsidered again for an extension. It seems to me that there
should be a life term to planning approvals and not this sort of permanent perpetual approval for
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projects. I know from the staff report there's been a lot of work sort of in the background
between staff and the applicant, but none of that is really shown or presented to the public
something more like a real hard and fast criteria like issuance of a building permit. Especially
with the Epic system now is a little more transparent for the whole community. I guess, I would
end with one last comment that they're often changing environmental conditions for not
continually allowing extensions for a project like this. Also, I did ask in my comments whether
or not what the next few phases are Phases 2 and 3. This is an 11-acre site. The site to the west
of it is 42 acres. It seems like that's going to be tee up next. So, it would be nice to know sort of
what is happening to this area and what the next phases are for this particular project. So those
are my comments, thank you.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Okay, we'll continue on with the public testimony from the members of
the public who have joined us via Zoom. At this time, I'll ask all the testifiers to turn on your
camera so I can swear everybody in one time. Okay, everybody please raise your right hand. Do
you swear or affirm to tell the truth on the matter before the Planning Commission?
ZOOM TESTIFIERS: Yes.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Okay, first testifier is Simmy McMichael? Simmy are you there?
S. MCMICHAEL: Aloha. Aloha.
VITOUSEK: Hi, Simmy. Hey howzit, we can hear you.
S. MCMICHAEL: Hello?
VITOUSEK: Hello, can you hear us?
S. MCMICHAEL: Hello, I'm here.
VITOUSEK: Hello, hello. Are you there?
S. MCMICHAEL: Where's the unmute thing. Where's the unmute. Here.
VITOUSEK: We can hear you.
S. MCMICHAEL: Press unmute, Alt A
VITOUSEK: Um', if it's okay with you, we will skip Simmy and move on to Olivia Pasciuta
and then we can circle back after that, see if you guys can get your Zoom figured out. Moving
on to Olivia Pasciuta. I hope I pronounced that right. Olivia are you there?
PASCIUTA: I'm here.
VITOUSEK: Okay, perfect, would you please state your name and town you live in and proceed
with your testimony.
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PASCIUTA: My name is Olivia Kong and I live in Ahupua'a of Keauhou.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Please proceed with your testimony.
PASCIUTA: My testimony is about the rezoning. It's tax map key 7-7-008:121. I'm in
opposition. I am a lineal descendant from families who have lived and continue to live in
Kahalu`u and Keauhou. To reiterate what my mother, Lily Haaunio Kong had stated September
2013. I am in opposition of the rezoning of agricultural land for the following reasons. The land
was zoned for agriculture and should be used for that purpose. Once you take away agricultural
land, you can never get it back. There have already been an increase of rezoning of Ag land well
as pastureland around Kona over the past years.
Developing this area would disturb the underground water flow that's vital to the ecological
system along the shoreline. Fresh water that flows from the mountain to the seashore mixes with
the seawater and becomes brackish water. That, in turn, is part of the ecological system for the
ecological system nourished by the brackish water all along the shoreline. And then that in turn
feeds into the larger ecological aquatic systems. This same runoff from the land would devastate
the sea life and future tourist attractions for miles up and down the seacoast. These disturbances
would starve the shoreline eventually leaving a barren coastline. An example would be Keauhou
Bay. Just one generation ago it was nicknamed Mother's Kitchen. Today it's more like Mother
Hubbard's Kitchen. Thank you.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Circling back to Simmy McMichael. Simmy are you there? I see that
it's muted.
S. MCMICHAEL: Hello.
VITOUSEK: Hello.
S. MCMICHAEL: Hello.
VITOUSEK: Can you hear us?
S. MCMICHAEL: It says press Alt and A. I still don't know where Alt and A is. Where is Alt
and A is Loke?
VITOUSEK: Can you hear us? Hello.
S. MCMICHAEL: Hi.
VITOUSEK: There you are.
S. MCMICHAEL: My computer?
VITOUSEK: Yes.
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S. MCMICHAEL: Okay.
L. MCMICHAEL: Oh, no. Hello.
S. MCMICHAEL: Mike?
VITOUSEK: Okay.
S. MCMICHAEL: I can't do it.
L. MCMICHAEL: Can you hear me?
VITOUSEK: Yes
L. MCMICHAEL: Hello. Okay.
KANUHA: Loke, Loke we can hear you guys.
S. MCMICHAEL: Okay, can I go on her computer and then talk?
VITOUSEK: Please do, yes.
KANUHA: Please do. Turn off the other one.
S. MCMICHAEL: Okay, turn it off, close it. Okay.
VITOUSEK: Okay, would you please state your name and the town you live in and proceed
with your testimony.
S. MCMICHAEL: I'm Simmy McMichael, Kailua-Kona.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo.
S. MCMICHAEL: Expired as of February 19, 2019. First approved February 9, 2009. Enough
already. Time for a new environmental assessment. Purchased at $900,000 foreclosure. Mana.
Ali`i Drive bankruptcy. Hana hou noted written supernatural factors of National Historic
Registry. Number 1) endangered Hoary Bat, it is in this area and the `Io I see them substantial
adverse environmental or ecological effects. Number 2) how does this enhance the quality-of-
life Chapter 344 HRS. Testing of ocean water, treatment of drainage and huge concern
wastewater. Is the groundwater and marine water quality study done? Study of 2017, 2 million
gallons of nutrients flow into our ocean daily. Consistent objectives of policy Chapter 205A.
Great Wall of Kuakini significance criteria A, B, C, D, E Site 6302. Hawaiians indicated many
burials are within these walls and is now a State monument HRS, Chapter 60 HRS.
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All significant will be preserved by the State Historic Preservation Division (SHPD). Where
SHPD's documentation to allow the destruction of this for the driveway? Where is the EIS and
the AIS of the makai lot as part of this project? Sensitive resources policy ENV 1.5. Number 5)
traffic study was done in October 2021. This was the deadest month of the year. Ironman was
cancelled due to Covid. Study, how do you guarantee the existing and prospective traffic
movement will not be hindered. How do you ensure that this development in relation to the
surrounding property is not impacted with this approval? Hawai`i County Code, Chapter 25
Zoning Code. Hook up to a public sewer system? Public facilities policy 4.4 requires that new
subdivisions within one mile of the shoreline within the Kona urban area shall hook up to the
public sewer system.
What sewer system do you connect to? Queen Kalama to Kahalu`u was all on cesspools, Policy
PUB 4-4. Has this project complied with the official concurrency map which identifies road
segments to the constructed concurrent with occupancy of the unit, as a minimum area mitigation
as defined in HCC 25-2-46? How does this agricultural zoning change the single-family be
allowed with climate change, more important ag lands for protection of the runoff and the severe
storms? More pesticides as fertilizer they are negative to our already polluted ocean. County
Enforcement HRS 712 that the appropriate office and agencies charged with the administration
of the County zoning laws enforced the LUC classification and the restriction in the ag district.
HRS 205-2 and 204-5 specify what uses may be made of the ag district.
How is there no emergency evacuation plan? When we have five minutes to an hour to evacuate
for tsunami. Also, fire and big waves and your traffic study of this is over 8,712 daily this—
JACKSON: Simmy, you have 30 seconds.
S. MCMICHAEL: Okay. Planning future of"—" F. [testifier spoke in Hawaiian language -
inaudible] Plan for the next generation. Plan, preserve, protect, and not destroy. Mahalo nui loa.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Just a question. So,just to confirm that you have withdrawn your
request for standing in a contested case?
S. MCMICHAEL: Yes.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Any questions from Commissioners? Continuing with Hanalei
Fergerstrom? Is Hanalei here? We will continue with Antu Harvey and will circle back if
Hanalei pops up. Antu, would you please state your name, the town you live in and proceed with
your testimony.
HARVEY: My name is Antu Harvey, and I live in the village of Holualoa. Aloha Chair and
Commissioners. Thank you for this opportunity to speak to about agenda Items 2 and 3
regarding La`ipala Makai subdivision. I oppose both. Our Kona coastal environment and built
landscapes are very different than they were in 2009. By granting any extension, you will be
continuing to use the 2009 knowledge and forecasts to set our future, despite 13 years of change
and better knowledge. Several huge burdens for our community have not unintentionally
resulted from the land use decision of the past 20 years. Those decisions best available at the
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time have caused or exacerbated life-threatening and quality of life-threatening problems that
must be fixed and will be very costly to the local community, including us taxpayers. We can do
better.
Five key areas of concern to me are mobility. When we build vehicle dependent housing, we
cannot ever build enough roads or parking lots. 2) Social capital. Building cul-de-sac car houses
are not affordable for our local families. 3) Evacuation. Adding more people before an adequate
tsunami evacuation plan is in place would be negligent. 4) Sewage processing. Connecting to an
overwhelming or deficient sewer system would be negligent. 5) Cultural heritage and historic
landscape preservation. Destruction is not pono. Most important to us should be any decisions
that are not reversible. Future generations will inherit what we do now. Realistically, we only
get one opportunity to transform our remaining open landscape.
Development locks in prescribed way of life that supports or excludes our local families.
Development typically destroys open space, landscapes, and historic resources. They are gone
forever. Two top considerations that lock in where it's possible are mobility. Sprawling
suburban development causes never ending demand for added road capacity. It is unsustainable
and unaffordable. We need walkable mixed-use neighborhoods to reduce the need to use cars
and encourage social connections. All development from here out must be required to provide
comfortable pedestrian access to stores, restaurants and other businesses, the beach, and parks.
Vehicle dependency exacerbates in equity. Currently people who can lease, afford vehicles are
required to drive the longest distances from affordable housing to school and work and services.
This significantly reduces their free time and increases their fuel costs.
2) Social capital. Kona is highly desirable, and we have become unbalanced toward investors
and short-term returns. We need Kona development to focus on housing and interconnected
neighborhoods designed for full-time local families. We need civic and community spaces in or
adjacent to these neighborhoods that build strong neighborhood identity and connectedness with
the surrounding area. We know so much more than we did 13 years ago. You're better
informed. Please act wisely and do right for Kona, our ancestors, our families, and our future.
Please don't approve the request on these two agenda items. We need housing. The developers
making accommodations to meet county requirements, but this plan follows too much of the
outdated and proven to be problematic model. Mahalo nui loa for your dedication and service to
our community.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Next up is Shannon Rudolph. Is Shannon here?
RUDOLPH: Aloha, can you hear me?
VITOUSEK: Yes, there you are. Would you please state your name and the town that you live
in.
RUDOLPH: Yes, my name is Shannon Rudolph0. I'm a 40-year Hawai`i island resident. I live
in Holualoa, and I just wanted to state before my testimony that I'm unhappy with the conflicting
deadlines on the Leeward Planning Commission page. It says we have to sign up for Zoom or
send testimony 48 hours in advance. But then I just heard a rumor late yesterday afternoon that
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you could still sign up to testify on Zoom, but nobody knew that they could still sign up. So, you
need to get that in alignment and have a rock-solid deadline that people can understand and
anticipate because then we're scrambling all night to get more people that wanted to testify to
testify. So that's a problem.
Okay, I oppose the number 2 and number 3 zoning and SMA permits and like you've heard in
this area from previous meetings and future meetings. The problems in this area are all the same.
What we're bitching about is all the same. It's the sewer, evacuation, pesticides, and fertilizers
going into the water. The traffic is just insane down there. The beach parks are overwhelmed.
The locals don't even go there anymore. In fact, locals barely even go on Ali`i Drive because
it's always so crowded with visitors and new residents. There's just not enough room in these
areas without the proper infrastructure that we've been screaming about for years. But no one
seems to be listening and you keep approving these big developments down there that cannot
handle the traffic or the people that we have right now.
So, you guys come on. Please don't approve another extension. It's been 13 years, they go
bankrupt, they run out of money, they get foreclosed, there's other problems and for this
particular development and it's not just this one it's all of them. There's just not enough
infrastructure to handle that population down there and any kind of increases and you guys got to
hear us. For those of you that don't live in Kona, you don't come over here too much. You
don't know what we're having to go through down there and it doesn't matter if it's this one or
the next one, or the next one. If the problems don't get solved down there, we're just going to
have to keep complaining and complaining to you, but you're not hearing us. So, thank you,
please oppose these two extensions.
We just can't have anymore, there's too much that's changed, and they tested the traffic down
there in 2019 during Covid. That's not a true number of traffic cars down there, not true at all.
So, come on, please oppose new zoning and SMA permit for this proposed development. Thank
you.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Our next testifier is Lokelani McMichael.
L. MCMICHAEL: Good morning.
VITOUSEK: Please state your name and the town you live in and proceed with your testimony.
L. MCMICHAEL: My name is Lokelani McMichael and I live in Kailua-Kona. I'm testifying
in opposition of agenda 2 and 3, the La`ipala. I don't think that we should, the permit expired in
2019. I think expired means it's done. Just like your driver's license when it expires, you've got
to get a new driver's license. Everybody's talking about the infrastructure. There's not enough
infrastructure as it is right now and putting 62 units of housing is like the cart before the horse.
Kahalu`u Beach is crazy, and everything down there is really car centric. If you go biking, if you
go running, you have to breathe car exhaust.
Part of this property, the La`ipala one is in the National Historic Registry and it's so amazing that
we even have a registry for Kahalu'u. I had asked Michael Yee, the ex-Planning Director, if he
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had ever seen supernatural factor in any historic registry ever and he said no and that had to do
with where they put the heiau. It's Ag, I think Ag lands are important to the culture. One of the
heiau's right next door to this property is a heiau for sweet potato and the Kue`manu one the
heiau, the surfing one at Kahalu`u that one is so significant.
I see a lot of hoary bats, I see `io, I see pueo. I see the hoary bats around 530. I like to go bat
watching. I'm worried about the Great Wall of Kuakini. That is a historic monument that meets
all the criteria. I was reading some of the archaeology and it said, the Great Wall of Kuakini,
Site 6302 which is located 50 meters seaward of the present project area, the site is unaltered and
in good condition. Also, from about the Wall from the archaeology survey from right next door
it's the same wall, the Great Wall of Kuakini. Although the wall was probably initially built for
one of the practical reasons of like farming. Its exceptional size may be attributed to Kuakini's
desire to display his wealth and power through a permanent monument on the landscape.
Construction of the monumental architecture in Polynesia has been attributed to political leaders
attempt to manifest his mana. So, I think that there cannot be a breach in this wall which would
probably be 50 feet, so they could fit a fire truck. I don't see how they can access this from Alii
Drive without breaking that wall.
JACKSON: Lokelani, 30 seconds remaining.
L. MCMICHAEL: Oh, okay. Well, the people they bought it for $900,000.00. I think that's a
pretty good deal to put two houses on versus 62 and breaking it up from 3,000 to 7,000 square
feet. And if we can be more sensitive to this area, perhaps when we build from here on put it on
post and pier. Also, we need to expand the Kuakini Highway because right now, right above it
it's only two lanes and in a tsunami evacuation panic I think you would cause panic. I think it's
a bottleneck, dead stop, death trap and people are going to have to run up to higher elevation.
Okay, that's all right now. Happy Earth Day, thank you.
VITOUSEK: Okay, mahalo and Commissioner Kanuha is going to have to step out for a second.
We've got full quorum to continue, and he will rejoin us when he's available.
KANUHA: Yes, thank you Mike. I just have that agenda item for Burial Council. So, I'll be
back in about 5 minutes after recognition.
VITOUSEK: Okay, mahalo.
KANUHA: Thank you.
VITOUSEK: Continuing with Tiare Hewlen.
HEWLEN: Aloha mai kakou. Tiare Hewlen, [testifier spoke in Hawaiian language - inaudible]
You may hear my keiki in the background. I'm speaking on behalf of my `ohana but also, I'm
an active member of our Kaiapuni School, our Hawaiian Immersion School. I have 7 keiki and
so I'm very involved with just the future generation and what the perpetuation of what we have
available resource wise. I want to express opposition to agenda item number 3. Specifically, the
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request for extension of the SMA Use permits. If the applicant cannot complete the SMA
requirements within the time period of the SMA Use permit, then a new SMA Use permit should
be required.
By granting an extension of the SMA Use permit because an applicant is unable to meet the
terms and conditions as described in the SMA application. So, it's a dangerous precedent that
may not be in the best interest of the County of Hawai`i residents. Just, [testifier spoke in
Hawaiian language - inaudible] fully support a lot of what has been said before in opposition to
this agenda item number 3. Especially that it's a tsunami zone, overcrowded, lack of
infrastructure, especially through the pandemic, the lack of medical resources that we have that
we've seen throughout the pandemic. And then on top of that, to add more over development in
that area would just be dangerous for everybody. As mentioned before a lot of local families
have deferred from going in that area because of the congestion "—"
VITOUSEK: Hold on one second. Is everybody else getting some weird feedback?
KERN: Yeah, the feedback is bad.
VITOUSEK: Do you have a cell device on also by chance?
HEWLEN: I can turn it off.
VITOUSEK: Okay, that's much better.
HEWLEN: Okay, kala mai. Would you like me to start all over?
VITOUSEK: Let's see, I think we got most of it, it just kind of faded out on like the last 20
seconds.
HEWLEN: Okay.
VITOUSEK: So, yeah.
HEWLEN: All right.
VITOUSEK: When you started talking about basically the tsunami and those kinds of impacts.
HEWLEN: Okay, well just repeat really of what has been mentioned before through the
testimonies beforehand in opposition. I do worry about not only everyone in that tsunami zone
but also, we have a school down there Kahakai Elementary which services a lot of our keiki.
Any type of bottlenose as it's mentioned about Kuakini Highway, all of those are huge concerns
to our community and I just want to voice again my opposition for this agenda number 3 so
mahalo for your favorable decision to deny the request for extension of the SMA Use permit.
Mahalo.
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VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Continuing on we have Sharon Willeford. Sharon would you please
state your name and town you live in.
WILLEFORD: Aloha, I'm Sharon Willeford. I live in Kaloko, Kailua-Kona. I was a longtime
resident in Keauhou which I consider to be sacred land. All of the `aina is sacred here and it's
being sold off to foreign investors, developers, newcomers without consideration for the local
people. Many of us are struggling and I don't know what went on behind closed doors during
Covid but looks like permits have been given out like candy and we need to think about the
future. I was a teacher at Kahakai, and we never had a tsunami drill. Once a year we'd walk
down to the church on the ocean for other emergency preparation and it's just endangering the
children and the whole community. I think I had witnessed that my son told us last time that the
coastline from Keauhou Bay is pretty much a dead zone. We have allowed this abuse and use of
our land and our ocean, and we need to protect everything we have left.
Some countries are disallowing foreign investors from purchasing land and homes in their land
and we at least need to tax the newcomers highly so some of us can still find places to live and
afford to live here. We should be focusing on growing food, keeping ag land going, helping each
other and the new rich people coming in do not understand aloha. They just do not have the
spirit and we need to watch carefully what's going on. I agree with everything that Simmy and
the other testifiers have said, and I oppose number 2 and 3, no more extensions. Let's try to
make this Kona town a beautiful place that people can come and visit and not another Oahu
which is the intention by maps and other things that we've discovered of the new developers that
are coming here.
I saw that many permits were given out like candy during Covid, and we see the development
starting all along Alii Drive and everywhere and we appreciate if you guys would realize yet
you're ruining our life and the potential for this place to be nurturing for everyone that lives here.
Mahalo.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Our next testifier is Malia Kipapa. Malia, good to see you
KIPAPA: Aloha —
VITOUSEK: Please state your name and the town you live in and proceed with your testimony.
KIPAPA: Mahalo. Kala mai, there's people doing the landscape in the background, so if it's
loud kala mai.
VITOUSEK: We can hear you just fine.
KIPAPA: Aloha Leeward Planning Commission members, my name is Malia Kipapa. I'm a
Kona resident and lineal descendant specifically to the `aina of Pahoehoe in North Kona. I wish
to express my strong opposition to agenda item number 2 and number 3. Specifically, the
request for an extension of the SMA Use permit. My personal opinion if the applicant can't
complete the SMA requirements within this window and time period of the SMA. This permit is
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already expired, then a new SMA Use permit should be required for this developer to apply for
in all fairness.
So,just highlighting some of the things that I've been listening to and hearing from concerned
people of this community, immediate community where this development is being proposed.
From Olivia, the Haaunio `ohana shared about rezoning from agricultural zone to resident. She
raises a lot of vital and very important concerns from a lineal descendant perspective which I
share, as a lineal descendant of this area, and this place. And she shared what her mom is saying
and she's just continuing to echo that today in place of her mom. I'm sharing from my
experience. Descendants have always been against this development. Speaking from families of
Kahalu`u and Keauhou they've always been in resistance of this. Since I've been able to have
the privilege to take care and malama places here in Kahalu`u and Keauhou specifically for my
job with Kamehameha Schools.
But I'm calling in and sharing testimony on behalf of my `ohana and personally as a descendant
of Kona. My `ohana are buried on the hills on the `aina in Pahoehoe as well as in the lands of
Kahalu`u and Keauhou. Agriculture, this is important. Food production. This was the purpose
of this zoning of this `aina and yet we are repurposing it and trying to rezone it. I'm against that
the rezoning of this from agricultural. We have descendants that are on the brink of where this
development is being proposed that are lineal descendants of Kahalu`u.
I read through the proposal for the amendment by Hawaii Onel, LLC. I have a little bit of
concern on how SHPD approved a burial treatment plan. When everyone and my experience
from working alongside with SHPD and with the Burial Council. It's a requirement to make
sure that lineal descendants especially have a voice in any type of disruption that has to do with
actual burial sites. The fact that they found 14 potential burial sites and cultural sites and they
were able to get it approved. I have a little bit of, and I only read this this morning at one o'clock
because I found out just as Elizabeth Dunn shared about transparency. Many other people that
are sharing in opposition in testimony against this development and the extension of this SMA
permit. I share the same concerns is this transparency of understanding, where was this due
process happening when —
JACKSON: Malia you have 30 seconds remaining.
KIPAPA: Okay. So, I echo, I basically asking for the Planning Department to really consider
and look and listen to all of the testimonies and opposition of granting them an extension for this
SMA permit. This is setting an unacceptable and irreversible precedence in the best interest of
our descendants, our families, and our residents of Kona. So, I really push towards the Planning
Department to make the right decision for our community and our families. Mahalo.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Our next testifier is Nancye Capri.
CAPRI: Good morning.
VITOUSEK: Good morning, please state your name and town you live in.
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CAPRI: Yes, I'm Nancye Capri, I'm a longtime resident been here 42 years and have
agricultural land in Holualoa and Ali`i Drive. I'm here by myself, I think you needed to know
that. Really, I don't have much more to say than all the other folks that have testified. I think
that it's vital to take pause. I'm against number 2 and number 3. Ali`i Drive is a dangerous
place now, it doesn't even take a disaster, and you can't get off the road and you can't enjoy a
walk. Kona used to have gathering places. We used to gather on the Pier, Halohalowai,
Kahalu'u, Pahoehoe and Keauhou. You don't see that much anymore it's too crowded, too
congested, unsafe, children can't be down there, infrastructure is poor, if any.
I really ask you folks take pause. I agree, they didn't meet their extension it expired. If
something of mine expires, like a driver's license I have to go renew. I think Ali`i Drive is a
very, very special place. I think all of Kona is and pretty soon it is at such high risk of changing
into something that is not desirable. So please listen to your community and take pause deny
these items number 2 and 3. I thank you so much. You have any questions?
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Commissioners any questions? Okay and then we have Mandy Johnson-
Campbell. Hi Mandy. Please state your name and the town you live in and proceed with your
testimony.
JOHNSON-CAMPBELL: Good morning, everybody. My name is Mandy Johnson-Campbell. I
live in Holualoa in Kailua-Kona. I oppose agenda items 2 and 3 for extending the SMA permits,
and I agree with everybody who's already voiced that. Those have expired and if they want to
pursue further plans here, they need to reapply. I specially support the lineal descendants, who
have testified on behalf of their `ohana and residents of this area that have been here for
hundreds of years. Their voices should be heard and I'm echoing a lot of the same concerns that
have already been shared. There're inadequate emergency evacuation routes already.
The County parks and beaches in this area are already overrun and do not have the adequate
funding to maintain the facilities that are there already. I don't know if everyone has recently
visited Kahalu`u Beach Park or the other beach parks. They just simply don't have the resources
to be able to maintain even under the current usage. I don't agree with the ag lands being used
for developments, and then we really have no idea of the affordability of these places that are
going to be put in with this development. Even if there is an affordable context or units within it,
which is common with these. How affordable is that to our residents or are these going to be
marketed to people from all over the world, and just be introducing even more new residents into
these areas?
As we've heard from everybody this morning, it's difficult even for the local population to use
these areas. I'm professionally and personally interested in preserving the historic properties and
the cultural landscape of this very sensitive and important area. Introducing 60 plus new units of
housing right here is not conducive to preserving that cultural landscape. As we keep approving
these subdivisions that take small bits away from important features, such as the Kuakini Wall or
different historic sites. It's chipping away at that cultural landscape. As we know, it's not just 1
site and 1 site and 1 site. This is a continual cultural landscape that needs to be preserved. It's a
unique world so it's important that we preserve that for future generations as well.
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As a mother and a surfer, I'm especially concerned with the water quality issues from this area
and until we figure out the sewage treatment and all of those issues that come along with it with
new developments in this area, we cannot keep putting in subdivisions. We already have issues
and brown water advisories multiple times a year and as sea level rise continues and climate
change that's going to continue. So, we need to work on the problems that are already plaguing
us not to be adding on to that for not only our health of human beings, but also our coral reef in
our ocean. Animals and environment that are so precious to all of us.
JACKSON: You have 30 seconds remaining.
JOHNSON-CAMPBELL: I'll leave it at that. I oppose these two measures, and I thank you for
all of your time Commissioners and thank you for denying this extension requests. Mahalo.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. I see that Hanalei Fergerstrom has joined us. You'll be our last testifier.
Please state your name and town you live in and proceed with your testimony.
FERGERSTROM: Good morning, can you hear me?
VITOUSEK: Yes.
FERGERSTROM: Good morning, I'm Hanalei Fergerstrom, I'm the spokesperson for Na
Kupuna Moku '0 Keawe. Which is a kupuna organization that entails all 6 districts of the Island
of Hawai`i. We stand in direct opposition to both A2 and A3. We do not believe that any further
development in the Keauhou area is practical at this time. I, being an old-time resident of Kona
myself, although I'm not living there now. I've watched the deterioration of the Keauhou area
ever since Keauhou Beach came down. There're many things that have gone down there that
actually missed the eye like the destroying of the Kuakini Wall as it's been brought up. There is
terrible water there. There is water but it's terrible. Nobody from Hilo wants to drink that water
when we come down.
And this whole idea of emergency exits is a very, very important thing to understand. You do
not have the infrastructure there. I don't see when you're going to get the infrastructure there,
especially when you're considering adding on new subdivisions. I believe this is not the only
ones that are coming up there, I believe there's several more that's in the pike and I think that
you should be cognizant of what the problem is existing already as far as safety goes. Then add
on how the problem will be heightened with adding on other subdivisions. With that, that's all I
need to say, and thank you very much for your time. Any questions?
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Commissioners? No. Okay and then I see Maki Morinoue is here, but I
don't see her name on the list of testifiers. Maija is —
MORINOUE: I did register.
VITOUSEK: Okay and you're here so you'll testify, but I just wanted to confirm if we got that.
JACKSON : She is on the list.
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VITOUSEK: Okay, cool. Mahalo Maki, please state your name, town you live in and proceed
with your testimony.
MORINOUE: Awesome. Mahalo everyone for this opportunity. A lot of details have already
been spoken so I'm going to advocate and support for the many wonderful things that has
occurred so far. My name is Maki Morinoue, a fourth generation from Holualoa Ahupua'a here
in the village. We have a family farm for 5 generations now. It's an agroforestry now. We've
moved from coffee to multiple crops. No poison. Our goal is to ensure that our aquifer system
for many generations to come get filtered and cleaned by whatever little piece of property that
we have control over.
So, I want to advocate support for the woman who testified at the beginning. As Holualoa
rezones from agriculture to residential. It is absolutely a big mistake to do so. When we live
here in the sweet spot where we can grow everything under the sun, and we ship 90% of our food
to Hawai`i. So, I support her and onward I oppose this agenda item 2 and 3 for all that has been
stated and support our lineal descendants. I love seeing so many of you show up today mahalo
for your advocacy I support that.
The new things that I'd like to add, is an article. A Sunday article that was published, and I
believe 2021 titled "Mega Tsunami". Where Kwok Fai Cheung, a professor of ocean resource
and geo-engineering at UH Manoa has offered the County of Hawai`i to have a plan and to
create an action towards having an evacuation plan for Kailua-Kona. I'm so curious to know if
the County of Hawai`i has step forward in this relationship, and this collaborative relationship
with an expert. Allowing us to understand that we are absolutely from an expert point of view
not prepared for a tsunami. We've had 2 tsunamis already from all those that live along Ali`i
Drive had firsthand experience with no sirens, and a full complete stop. We had also the support
of the Police Chief and Ms. Simmy McMichael many years ago to raise these very, very
important concerns.
JACKSON: You have 30 seconds remaining.
MORINOUE: Mahalo. I also support all the amazing archaeological sites and the historic
preservation of these areas and to mention another added water issue is the flood ways that we
have here. There's been some Public Access, Open Space and Natural Resources Preservation
Commission (PONC) applications that were not purchased but green lighted by all 9 County
Council members. These are all huge lands that affect areas right near these 62 units. So please
vote no. We all oppose items 2 and 3, and the rezoning the continuous rezoning of our
agricultural to residential lots it does not make sense for a future ahead. Mahalo.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Are there any more testifiers that we've missed?
JACKSON: No.
VITOUSEK: Okay, anybody come in person? No, okay.
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JACKSON: No, not that I'm aware of.
The testimony ended at 10:50 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Melissa Dacayanan-Salvador
Secretary to Boards and Commissions
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LEEWARD PLANNING COMMISSION
COUNTY OF HAWAI`I
HEARING TRANSCRIPT
APRIL 21, 2022
A regularly advertised hearing on the applications of HAWAII ONE1 INVESTORS LLC
(FORMERLY KONA HEIGHTS LLC) (PL-REZ-2022-000014/AMEND REZ 07-075 AND
PL-SMA-2022-000012/AMEND SMA 07-024) was called to order at 12:48 p.m. via live stream
online meeting, with Chairman Michael Vitousek presiding.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Michael Vitousek, Barbara DeFranco, Michael Dela Cruz,
Clement "CJ" Kanuha III, Zaheva Knowles, and Mahina Paishon-Duarte
ABSENT AND EXCUSED: Faith "Faye" Yates
EX-OFFICIO MEMBER: Robyn Matsumoto (Department of Public Works)
ALSO IN ATTENDANCE: Malia Kekai, Esq. (Counsel for the Commission),
Jean Campbell, Esq. (Counsel for the Planning Department), Zendo Kern (Planning Director),
Maija Jackson (Planning Program Manager), Christian Kay (Planner), Tracie-Lee Camero
(Planner), Jessica Andrews (Planner), and Noriko Sauer (Commission Secretary)
APPLICANT: HAWAII ONE1 INVESTORS LLC (FORMERLY KONA HEIGHTS LLC)
(PL-REZ-2022-000014/AMEND REZ 07-075)
Application for a five (5)-year time extension to Condition E (Time to Secure Final Subdivision
Approval) and amendment to Condition K(Drainage Improvements) to allow for the option of
bonding the drainage improvements or the use of other acceptable forms of surety in lieu of the
construction of drainage improvements, prior to the issuance of Final Subdivision Approval, of
Ordinance 09 8, which reclassified 11.05 acres of land from an Agricultural 5-acres (A-5a) to a
Single-Family Residential-7,500 square feet (RS-7.5) zoned district. The property is located at
the south end of Naniloa Street adjacent to the White Sands Beach Estates and Keauhou View
Estates Subdivisions, Pahoehoe 1st, Kapala'alaea 2nd, North Kona, Hawaii, TMK: 7-7-008:121.
APPLICANT: HAWAII ONE1 INVESTORS LLC (FORMERLY KONA HEIGHTS LLC)
(PL-SMA-2022-000012/AMEND SMA 07-024)
Application for a five (5)-year time extension to Condition 4 (Time to Secure Final Subdivision
Approval) of SMA Use Permit No. 07-024, which was approved to allow the development of a
65-lot, single family residential subdivision and related improvements. The property is located at
the south end of Naniloa Street adjacent to the White Sands Beach Estates and Keauhou View
Estates Subdivisions, Pahoehoe 1st, Kapala'alaea 2nd, North Kona, Hawaii, TMK: 7-7-008:121.
VITOUSEK: We will take the next two agenda items together for purposes of presentations and
fact finding. The items 2 and 3, applicant is Hawaii Onel Investors LLC—or, is it Hawaii One
[pronouncing phonetically as "o-ne'J1? Anybody?
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ARAI: Hi, this is Daryn. We go with Hawaii One, make it simple.
VITOUSEK: Just the way you want, okay, Hawaii One Investors LLC, formerly Kona Heights
LLC, PL-REZ-2022-000014/AMEND REZ 07-075, application for a five-year time extension to
Condition E, time to secure Final Subdivision Approval, and amendment to Condition K,
drainage improvements, to allow for the option of bonding the drainage improvements or the use
of other acceptable forms of surety in lieu of the construction of drainage improvements, prior to
the issuance of Final Subdivision Approval, of Ordinance 09 8, which reclassified 11.05 acres of
land from Agricultural 5-acres, A-5a, to Single-Family Residential-7,500 square feet, RS-7.5,
zoned district. The property is located at the south end of Naniloa Street adjacent to the White
Sands Beach Estates and Keauhou View Estates Subdivisions, Pahoehoe 1, Kapala'alaea 2nd,
North Kona, Hawai`i, TMK: 7-7-008:parcel 121.
Then item number 3, it's the same applicant, Hawaii One Investors, and this is PL-SMA-2022-
000012/AMEND SMA 07-024, application for a five-year time extension to Condition 4, time to
secure Final Plan [sic] Approval, of SMA Use Permit 07-024, which was approved to allow the
development of a 65-lot, single-family residential subdivision and related improvements. The
property is located at the south end of Naniloa Street adjacent to the White Sands Beach Estates
and Keauhou View Estates Subdivisions, Pahoehoe 1st, Kapala'alaea 2nd, North Kona, Hawai`i,
TMK: 7-7-008:parcel 121.
Fist, I'd ask, am I pronouncing that right, the ahupua`a? CJ or Mahina, do you guys know if I'm
pronouncing that right? Kapala'alaea? Kapa-la`a-laea?
KANUHA: —aea, sorry—
VITOUSEK: Okay.
KANUHA: Yeah, yeah, la'alaea, yeah.
VITOUSEK: Laea? Mahalo. Staff presentation will be by Christian, right?
KAY: Yes. Good afternoon. Thank you, Chair Vitousek, and now welcome to our new
Commissioners. If you give me a moment, I'll share my screen. All right, can everybody see
that? Great.
Okay, as the Chair stated, for presentation purposes we are going to present both of these
requests concurrently. Again, these are amendment requests to a Change of Zone ordinance, as
well as an amendment to an SMA Use Permit.
The subject property outlined here in red is located in the North Kona District of Hawaii Island.
For reference we've got Alii Drive running generally north-south through the slide, and Queen
Kalama Avenue running generally east-west here, and La'aloa a little bit farther north running
generally east-west through the slide as well.
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The applicant is requesting two amendments to ordinance 09 8, which reclassified 11.05 acres of
land from an Agricultural 5-acres to a Single-Family Residential 7,500-square feet zoned district.
The first is a five-year time extension to Condition E, time to secure Final Subdivision Approval,
and an amendment to Condition K, drainage improvements, to allow for the option of bonding
the drainage improvements or the use of other acceptable forms of surety in lieu of the
construction of drainage improvements prior to the issuance of Final Subdivision Approval. The
applicant proposes the following language: "A drainage study shall be prepared by a licensed
civil engineer and submitted to the Department of Public Works. The recommended drainage
improvement shall be constructed"—and this is the proposed additional language—"or secured
by a bond or other acceptable forms of surety meeting with the approval of the Department of
Public Works prior to receipt of Final Subdivision Approval. The drainage shall include
potential impacts from the Kahului-Keauhou Parkway culverts."
The applicant is also requesting a five-year time extension to Condition number 4 of the SMA
Use Permit, and it's a similar condition for, to secure Final Subdivision Approval. The SMA
Use Permit 07-024 allowed the development of a 65-lot single-family residential subdivision and
related improvements on the subject property.
The proposed development at the time, and as largely carried through, is a development of a
62-lot residential subdivision, with lots ranging in size from 3,082 square feet to 6,501 square
feet and related improvements consistent with an approved Planned Unit Development master
plan. All proposed structures will be limited to one to two stories in height. According to the
PUD permit, which was approved in 2016, the PUD is designed to address the needs and lifestyle
of residents who want to live in a planned residential community that is a more compact
community with alternate standards versus the current standard subdivision layout, which in
many cases lacks a human scale and walkability.
The applicant's stated reasons for the request are as follows: Since the applicant acquired the
property in 2013—so, about seven years after the ordinance, pardon me, about four years after
the ordinance was approved—they have worked diligently to comply with conditions of approval
of the Change of Zone ordinance. These include securing a Planned Unit Development permit in
2016; finalizing and securing approval from SHPD for an archaeological data recovery plan and
burial treatment plan in 2017, pardon me, in 2010 and 2017, respectively; securing tentative
approval for phase one of the subdivision in 2017; working with the Department of Parks and
Recreation to locate a suitable site for a three-acre neighborhood park, and completing an
environmental assessment, receiving a finding of no significant impact for the park's
development; and securing approval for subdivision infrastructure construction plans in 2019.
Despite this work, the applicant lost its funding to complete the subdivision and could not find an
alternative source within a timely manner, thus the applicant could not meet the February 9,
2019, deadline to secure Final Subdivision Approval, which necessitates the time extension
request. Additionally, the applicant would like to secure a bond or other form of surety for all
subdivision related infrastructure improvements, including drainage improvements, as allowed
for by the Subdivision Code. To do this, they are requesting an amendment to Condition K to
allow for this flexibility.
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This is the County zoning map for the subject property and surrounding area. The subject
property is zoned Single-Family Residential 7,500-square feet as is indicated by the yellow
color. Again, the subject property is outlined here in red. And I've got kind of in this dash blue
line here the alignment of a 50-foot-wide access easement that will contain a 20-foot-wide
pavement roadway with curb gutter sidewalk from Alii Drive to the subject property as one of
two access points to the property. That approval was secured through an SMA Minor Permit in
2018, and we can discuss that further later; I just wanted to indicate why that's there.
The State Land Use designation for the subject property is Urban. So concurrent with the 2009
rezone ordinance there was a State Land Use boundary amendment from Agricultural to Urban at
the time. Other areas in the surrounding vicinity are largely Urban with some Agricultural State
Land Use designation as well.
The General Plan Land Use Pattern Allocation Guide Map designation for the subject property
and much of the surrounding area towards the shoreline is Low Density Urban indicated in the
mustard yellow color. The area to the east, or mauka, of the subject property is designated as
Urban Expansion as designated by the thatching color.
And this is the Kona Community Development Plan map for the subject property and the area.
The red lines here on either side of the property indicate the extent of the Kona Urban Area, so
the subject property is designated within the Kona Urban Area. A portion of the property is also
designated on the fringe, within the fringe of the Kahalu`u Makai Village Neighborhood Transit
Oriented Development area.
And here is the applicant's site plan. This is going to be one of two site plans here. The first is
just showing that roadway I talked about earlier. Again, there is a designated 50-foot-wide
easement here within which a 20-foot-wide pavement dedicable standard road will be built and
dedicated to the County. There was some question earlier in the testimony relative to the
breaching of the Kuakini Wall; there were approvals back in 2019 from SHPD for both the
preservation plan, as well as an archaeological monitoring plan, that spoke to that breach and
approved the breach as part of the proposed development of the roadway in response to grading
plans for the roadway, or for the right-of-way. Again, so this is just leading from Alii Drive
here on the left through the intervening property to the west of the subject property, subject
property being here on the right.
And then here is the applicant's site plan for the subject property here. Again, this is the phase
one subdivision plan, so those parcels that you see that have a square footage indication would
be part of that phase one, but they generally laid out the remainder of the proposed subdivision,
the subsequent phases. Again, it's consistent with the approved Planned Unit Development plan.
For reference we've got Naniloa Street here toward the top; this is also a County roadway, so a
secondary access in addition to the one coming off of Alii will come through Naniloa and create
a loop of connectivity. Other roadways within the subject property will be partially dedicable,
partially private. There are conditions of approval of the ordinance that does not allow
connectivity to the Kahului-Keauhou Parkway, so the subject property, or the proposed roadway,
will cul-de-sac out here unless connectivity to the Kahului-Keauhou Parkway is approved by
DPW. Just for reference, there are two archaeological sites that had treatment through a
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preservation plan, a burial site here and another site here, which is part of a larger complex, but
the portion of it, or the feature of it, that's on the subject property is located here. And there
have been approved, a burial treatment plan approved by the Burial Council and a preservation
plan, burial site component of a preservation plan that was approved by SHPD thereafter to
protect and mitigate those resources.
The aerial photograph here on the upper left kind of shows a zoomed-out view of the subject
parcel and surrounding area. We've got the White Sands Subdivision and Keauhou, pardon me,
Keauhou View Estates Subdivision here above the subject property to the north, again, Queen
Kalama coming here and La'aloa Drive coming here. On the lower right is a zoomed-in view of
the subject property, again, with Queen Kalama Street coming off of Ali`i Drive. Subject
property is shown here again outlined in red, and then again—I didn't get a chance to put the
dash line in here but—there will be a secondary access roadway from Ali`i Drive to the subject
property generally through the parcel here.
Here are some photos of the subject property. These shows views of the subject property from
Naniloa Street looking south into the property.
And here are some views of Naniloa Street farther out looking south, and then the one on the
right is a view of Naniloa Street looking north. So this, again, will be one of two access points to
the subject property and then the project.
The Director is recommending that we forward a favorable recommendation to the County
Council for the two amendments to Ordinance number 09 8, and that we approve, or that the
Commission approve, the request to amend SMA Use Permit number 07-024.
One other thing I'd like to point out is there was some question as to the location of the subject
property relative to the Kahalu`u Historic District. Because we got a lot of testimony about that,
we did some research into the information that we have for that. So the image on the left here
and the description on the bottom comes from the nomination form for the National Register for
this historic district that was completed in I believe the late '70s. So what the form does is it
gives a written description of the extent of the historic district, as well as some coordinates for
the corners and the TMKs that are included, or that are part of the district. So in this case the
description reads as such, "The Kahalu`u Historical District encompasses the seaward half of the
Kahalu`u ahupua`a(an ancient Hawaiian land division) and a small portion of the Keauhou
ahupua`a," which is to its south. In 2016 when our Cultural Resources Commission was seated,
one of the projects that we did was to better understand our sites and districts on the State and
National Registers, so we did a GIS mapping exercise to show the extent of those districts. So
the image on the right comes from that exercise; the red dots that you see here are the
coordinates points overlaid on our GIS, the area in purple are the TMKs that were included in the
nomination form. So in both cases what this shows is the subject property, which is located here
is outside of the extent of the Kahalu`u Historic District, and again it's in a different ahupua`a.
So with that, I'm happy to turn the time over to the Chair and will be happy to answer any
questions when it becomes my time.
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VITOUSEK: Thank you. Next, we have the applicant's presentation. And on behalf of the
applicant, we have Mr. Daryn Arai.
ARAI: Hi, good afternoon, Mr. Chairman and Member of the Commission and Planning
Director Kern and staff. Thank you for accommodating us today.
VITOUSEK: Mr. Arai, do you mind if I swear you in first?
ARAI: Yeah, sure.
VITOUSEK: Thanks. Do you—would you please raise your right hand? Okay. Do you swear
or affirm or tell the truth on the matter before the Leeward Planning Commission?
ARAI: Ido.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Have you received the background and recommendation reports from the
Planning Department?
ARAI: Yes, we have.
VIOTUSEK: And do you agree with the Planning Director's recommendations, including
proposed conditions?
ARAI: Yes, we do, thank you.
VITOUSEK: Okay, and is it just you representing the developer today?
ARAI: No,joining me today is representatives of Hawai`i Onel Investment; it's Ernie Mansi
who is the landowner, Matt Mansi, Project Manager—and they are all hiding from me, by the
way, I can't see them here—Ken Van Bergen who is their consultant, and joining me in assisting
them with their applications is Sidney Fuke as well.
VITOUSEK: Okay, awesome. Would it be possible for all the development team to put on your
cameras, and I'll swear everybody in in case anybody has any questions that need to be
answered? Okay, if that's everybody, please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm to
tell the truth on the matter before the Leeward Planning Commission?
M. MANSI: I do.
FUKE: Yeah.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Okay, please proceed with your presentation.
ARAI: Thank you. We appreciate the, by the way, we appreciate the thorough presentation by
staff as always. Makes my job and our job a lot easier. We also as I mentioned earlier, we
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appreciate the favorable recommendation by the Planning Director on both the amendment
requests.
The focus of the amendment request is pretty straightforward, and it's really asking for more
time in which to complete the subdivision and more specifically to the Condition K within the
Change of Zone ordinances to provide that opportunity where the drainage system improvements
can be constructed at the same time with the other subdivision improvements, say, the water, the
roads, and the sewer system.
The applicant, as staff mentioned, purchased the property in foreclosure in 2013 about four years
after the Change of Zone and State Land Use Boundary amendment and SMA permits were
issued. In those seven years since the applicant has made very diligent efforts to pursue and
complete the subdivision as prescribed by those approvals. And I won't go through it because
staff was very thorough in discussing it, but their efforts, as mentioned earlier, did include
obtaining a Planned Unit Development permit from the County Planning Department, getting
SHPD approvals for both the burial treatment and data recovery plans, designing and then filing
a subdivision application in 2017, then also at the same time working with the county in
designing and securing the approvals for the proposed three-acre La'aloa Park located to the
north of the project site, and that included an environmental assessment and issuance of a finding
of no significant impact, applying for Plan Approval for the park as well. And also the
subsequent year, the following year I should mention, the applicant also made efforts to purchase
the property located to the west or makai of the project site in order to facilitate the construction
of the Pi`ilani Street, which will provide direct access to the subdivision from Ali`i Drive. The
applicant was successful in securing tentative subdivision approval for the first phase, which
consists of 18 single-family residential lots and went through great effort to design all of the
subdivision improvements, the civil work, for which they were able to get the County approval
in 2019. Even though you may not see a lot of activity on the ground, I think the applicant in the
presentation and as I've discussed has clearly demonstrated a significant amount of efforts in
getting the necessary approvals and permits in order to secure final subjection approval.
Unfortunately, at the end of 2019 they informed the Planning Department that they lost funding,
and that's when basically everything came to a stop.
In order for them to seek out additional sources of funding to complete the subdivision, they
need and require these amendments to the entitlements both the Change of Zone and the SMA
permits in order for them to go ahead and try to find those alternate sources of funding.
As confirmed by the Planning Director in his recommendation report, there have been no
significant changes in the General Plan or the Zoning Code relative to the project area. It
continues to remain consistent with the goals, policies, and standards of the General Plan relative
to economic and land use elements of the Plan. The project itself is considered infill by the Kona
Community Development Plan, which is intended to really promote urban development within or
adjacent to existing developments thereby relieving development pressures on Agricultural or
Open designated areas. And finally, the project does, we've demonstrated that project does
remain in compliance with the concurrency standards of the Zoning Code relative to water,
traffic, and civil defense sirens.
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Now, we've, in testimony that was provided to us by the Planning Department, we—and in
testimony today—we heard the concerns of the community, and if you, if it's okay with you,
we'd like to briefly touch upon those concerns.
VITOUSEK: Yes, please.
ARAI: Thank you—sorry, I have a frog in my throat, my apologies—as staff pointed out, the
project site is not situated within the Kahalu`u Historic District; regardless, though, the applicant
has complied with all archaeological protocols and, as I mentioned, complying with the,
completing the burial treatment plan and the data recovery plans.
The applicant did prepare an updated traffic study that found that the studied intersections in the
vicinity of the project will operate at acceptable levels of service, and that recommends that no
mitigation for future traffic conditions within the project is warranted at least until 2041.
The project will connect to the County sewer as required by the Change of Zone ordinance
thereby protecting groundwater resources within the area.
We did take a look and the project site is situated within the tsunami evacuation area; however,
we believe that with the construction of Pi`ilani Street, it provides another mauka-makai access
to eventually get to La'aloa Avenue in order to evacuate the area in the event of a tsunami.
Let's see, the Ali`i Drive access point through the makai parcel will be constructed first, as it will
provide the primary and only source of construction related access, you know, during the
development of the proposed subdivision. And eventually, when the subdivision, at least the
first phase, is completed, that roadway will be fully improved in order to provide or serve as the
primary access point for the subdivision thereby relieving some of the traffic strains upon the
adjacent Naniloa and Queen Kalama roadways.
The applicant, as required by the Change of Zone ordinance, and the recommended amendments
to the conditions require the applicant to provide its fair share contributions to roads, parks,
sewer, and protective services, including the development of the three acres, the three-acre
La'aloa Park to the north.
And finally, the applicant will comply with the County's affordable housing requirements.
So with that, we hope we've demonstrated the diligence of the applicant in really pursuing Final
Subdivision Approval, and he was, they were very, very close to getting it as witnessed by the
completion of the construction drawings, and we hope that a favorable recommendation will give
the applicant the opportunity to complete the subdivision as intended by the County Council
back in 2009. So we stand ready to answer any questions if you have.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Commissioners, are there any questions of the applicant or staff'?
Commissioner Paishon-Duarte.
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PAISHON-DUARTE: Thank you. Thank you for the presentation. My, I have a couple
questions, so I'll just ask one for now. The first question is, why do you think there were no oral
testimonies or written testimonies that I saw in support or in favor of your application?
ARAI: I don't know if I can speak directly to that; typically, when people are concerned, they
tend to express it more willingly. I wish it was the other, I wish it was a more balanced thing,
but I suspect that's the primary reason.
PAISHON-DUARTE: Is there anyone else from those that are on your team that would like to
answer? You know, we had an applicant with another, another applicant that had, Waikoloa
Land Company, and they had a whole bunch of folks that were speaking in favor and also folks
that were speaking in opposition, so there have been cases where folks have shared testimony
either way. Anyone else want to respond to that question?
VAN BERGEN: Yeah, I would just say in these cases—and I'm not sure what the Waikoloa
development was you are referring to—if it doesn't affect somebody, they are not going to go
out of their way to testify, and there is no, there is not a huge benefit to people in the area to this
development, because they already have their residence or their dwelling place and, you know,
everyone is busy with their lives. But I would think that that in no way says that this isn't a solid
project as shown by the presentation. But I know for myself, I've got several public notices
recently and, you know, I didn't go testify because, you know, it wasn't that I was against it, I
just, I'm busy, and I thought, you know, my testimony would, you know, wouldn't be that
relative because I'm just living my life and living in my, in my residence—excuse me, I've got
to, I've got to cough, so I'm a little, a little caught up, but, yeah.
ARAI: Maybe I could add something to it is that as part of the public notification process, the
applicant did serve notices; I think it was about 81 or 82 property owners within 300 feet of the
subject property. So I think maybe you should keep that in context when looking at the number
of people who spoke in opposition versus the people that were notified during this process.
VIOTUSEK: Any follow-up questions, Commissioner Paishon-Duarte?
PAISHON-DUARTE: Commissioner Kanuha, you go first.
KANUHA: Yeah, I've got, actually, I have a few questions.
VITOUSEK: Go ahead.
KANUHA: So, with the archaeological survey, SHPD, obviously, and the historical, it was
brought up, you know, the Wall of Kuakini, but also to the burial treatment program being
moved through our Burial Council. Have you guys been in touch with any of the cultural
descendants or lineal descendants of that area and that property?
ARAI: Not as part of this particular amendment request.
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KANUHA: Okay, but, but, but as a whole moving forward not only on this amendment but
moving forward on this project, has there been any, you know, any communication between, like
I said, the cultural or any lineal descendants there in moving forward to, like I said, with the
Burial Council?
ARAI: I'm trying to anticipate—
KANUHA: [Inaudible simultaneous speech]
ARAI: Yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead.
KANUHA: No, no, the floor is yours.
ARAI: Well, because of the nature of the request—again, it's very, very limited in scope, and
we've demonstrated how far the applicant has come to within just inches of getting a Final
Subdivision Approval before funding was lost. I, and with all due respect, I would be, I'm trying
to understand what it would accomplish, you know, given the scope of the request that we have
before you today.
KANUHA: Yeah, yeah, yes, definitely, and for me,just, I'm looking at a broad spectrum of
things. I know the requests and the agenda that's on hand but also the decision that we make
here moving it forward. Obviously, I want to make sure everything is, you know, everything is
pono on both sides, you know, it's, and that's why these questions are being asked; they are just
some notes that I've written down. I thank you for your answer. And I've got a few more
questions, but I'm letting some of the Commissioners go ahead of me.
VITOUSEK: I just have a quick follow-up on Commissioner Kanuha's question regarding lineal
cultural descendants. The burial treatment plan indicates the search for lineal cultural
descendants that was done but doesn't indicate whether any lineal cultural descendants were
recognized for these sites by the Hawai`i Island Burial Council. Were there any lineal and
cultural descendants recognized for this project?
ARAI: Personally, I am not aware of, if any were specifically identified. And I'm trying to
search through some of the records now.
FUKE: Mr. Chairman, this is Sydney Fuke. I'm just kind of thinking out loud right now, but,
you know, unfortunately, you know, like we don't have the presence of the archaeologist who
prepared and represented the applicant before the Burial Council who would be most qualified
and adept to answer that question. So if the commi- you know, and I sense that this is a very
important question that Commissioner Kanuha had raised, and so, you know, I don't know what
the outcome of the application is, but if it happens to be continued, then we will make sure that
the archaeologist is here to provide a response [inaudible noise]
VITOUSEK: Mahalo, yes.
KANUHA: Thank you, Sid
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VITOUSEK: Okay, Commissioners? Mr. Kanuha, if you have any further questions, please by
all means let's keep it rolling.
KANUHA: Okay, the next follow-up question, so you guys are, you know, moving forward on
this other stuff, you guys are able to connect to the County sewer from that location?
ARAI: Yes—
KANUHA: —looking at, coming down through the new easement down to Ali`i Drive?
Because I'm pretty sure Kapalama [sic] is the last, I think that's the last stop there. Because, you
know, we had something on the agenda previous where, you know, it was a, it was in the paper
and there is concern because that sewer connection does not reach, you know, Kahalu'u; we are
limited to it. So I know that's something that needs to come down on the, with the County as
well and, you know, moving things forward to get that going. But, yes, you guys do have that?
ARAI: Yeah, I mean I can't speak to it directly, because I didn't focus on it specifically, as it
pertains to the construction drawings that were approved by the County in 2019. But then the
conditions of the Change of Zone ordinance specifically require the entire project to be sewer—
KANUHA: Yes.
ARAI: —there is no alternative.
KANUHA: Yes, okay—
ARAI: Regardless—
KANUHA: —I see that, I just wanted to make sure you guys had that, that there is, able to get a
connection, you know, if there is, the project moves forward and that's something that holds this
project up later down the road.
ARAI: Totally understand, and if the applicant is not able to provide the sewer connection, then
there is no way they can obtain Final Subdivision Approval simply because of the way the
ordinance is structured.
KANUHA: Yes, yes. Thank you.
VITOUSEK: Follow-up question to Commissioner Kanuha's question, and this would be
possibly for the County, but, has there been any consideration, given the, the lapse of time that
this zoning ordinance and SMA have expired and potential need to recondition it based on
current environmental conditions, has there been any consideration about requiring the applicant
to extend the sewer to cover the area between Kapalama [sic] and Keauhou that's not currently
served by sewer?
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KAY: If I may, Mr. Chair, this is Christian. I don't know specifically what the outcome of the
approved waste, or the sewer study, was, but there was an approved sewer study by the
Department of Environmental Management that spoke to the capacity issues and what
improvements, if any, would need to be done to extend the sewer to the project. We looked at
the limited information we had in our GIS this morning, and the last stop of the sewer is within
the adjacent subdivision about 300 feet within Queen Kalama Avenue. So I suspect that will
have to be extended from its terminus right now into the project. Again, I'm not exactly sure
what the route is going to be, but the condition of approval does require them not only to connect
the sewer but also to extend the system in order to service the project, subject to the sewer study.
VITOUSEK: And I know it's not likely that we would have—but maybe, maybe you have the
information you could pull up on the map of where the sewer ends currently on either side to see
what it would look like, if a condition were recommended for them to connect that to serve the
area that's not served by the sewer?
KAY: I don't have that—we are in between mapping systems right now, so this is, I don't have
the old system on my computer anymore. Maija, I don't know, if Maija can bring that up and
share it.
JACKSON: I can pull it up if you give me a few minutes, but I just want to clarify one thing;
Chair, are you asking whether we had considered having the applicant extend the sewer line to
serve properties south of theirs? Because if that's what you are considering, you know,
whenever we condition a Change of Zone or a permit, we have to make sure that what we are
asking of the applicant is proportional to their impact, so it would be reasonable to ask them to
provide a sewer to their property but not necessarily reasonable to have them extend it further
south for other properties.
VITOUSEK: Well, I mean in other situations there has been projects where roadways have had
to go in that serve that project but also serve the surrounding properties and create new roadways
going through areas where there wasn't. So if it was an option—and I don't know that it is or
not, not knowing any information about where the sewer lines are and how extensive the cost
would be just asking if that's something that's been considered.
JACKSON: Yeah, so typically, when a road is like a regional roadway and it goes through a
property, the landowner will improve it through their property and then stub it out to the property
that would connect in the future. So I would think if the current applicant is going to provide
sewer to their property, it would extend the sewer line further south into their property, which
means that it could connect or stub out to where the next property to the south could connect at
some point in the future. Does that make sense?
VITOUSEK: Yep, but definitely would be helpful to have figures on what area would be added
to the service area for sewer by the creation of the sewer for this project
JACKSON: Yeah, so
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VITOUSEK: —because if we are adding additional areas, they can be, now be covered by sewer
that weren't covered by sewer; that would be a benefit of this project.
JACKSON: Okay, let me pull up a map, and perhaps the applicant has more information on
where they intend to install the sewer lines within their project.
VAN BERGEN: I might be able to add something if that's okay.
VITOUSEK: Sure.
VAN BERGEN: Aloha, Chair. And I didn't know this was going to come up, but I was just
looking through the civil plans. My recollection—it's been a few years—was we had two
options with the sewer; we had an option to have one connection to the property through Naniloa
Street, and in that scenario Naniloa would have to put sidewalks, curb, and gutter from Alii
Drive up Queen Kalama and then Naniloa into the subdivision, and we would tie into the sewer
line serving the White Sands and Keauhou View community. We opted to go with the two
entrances to the subdivision for several reasons,just better access points and so forth, so we
added the Alii Drive connection. The property owner ended up purchasing those eight acres
between the proposed subdivision and Alii Drive. And I believe the sewer plan that was
approved tied into the sewer that ended south of the property, so we are going to, we are going to
tie in on the Alii Drive connection is my recollection. I was just looking through the civil plan;
I couldn't find the page, but I believe that's what, the plan was that Wastewater approved. Matt,
do you have any recollection to that scenario?
M. MANSI: No, I would need to take a look at the improvement plans, which I can do right
now while we keep going.
VAN BERGEN: But there definitely was a sewer connection plan that was approved by DEM,
Wastewater—
M. MANSI: Yes.
VAN BERGEN: And that's, you know, I just, I'm trying to recall which one. I know we were
going to do the Queen Kalama improvement because it just made more sense to add the second
entrance, and I'm fairly confident that's where the sewer is going to tie in. But we can confirm
that one way or another.
M. MANSI: I can, I can confirm that in a few minutes.
VITOUSEK: Okay. Deputy Corp. Counsel Campbell has her hand up.
CAMPBELL: Hi, thanks. I just want to weigh in just a tiny bit here and say thank you to Maija
for beginning to articulate something for you guys. I think it would be helpful for all of you just
as again by way of background for you. When you are considering conditions to approvals for
basically the kind of things that you are working on, the legal test that you should have in mind
is, is this condition rationally related to the impact of this particular approval, and then is it
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roughly proportional, which is what Maija was telling you about. So just by way of an example,
if you were doing something that would, you know, and you don't really have approvals that
smell exactly like this, but if you were doing something that was going to create an office
building, there would be no relationship to a condition relating to a school, so it would be
inappropriate to condition an office building approval on, you know, the construction of a school
because office buildings don't create the need for more students, right? There might be traffic
impacts or density or, you know, all kinds of other things that an office building would create an
impact for, but it wouldn't create an impact needing more students. On the other hand if you
were doing an approval of a thousand lot subdivision, obviously, that does create a need for, you
know, a school because a subdivision like that presumably would create a lot more families,
which would create a lot more students, which would create a need for a school. And then, so
that's the relationship part; the impact that's created by the actual approval that you are looking
at needs to be related to the condition that you are imposing. And then on the proportionality
side, again, the subdivision approval if you were doing a four-lot subdivision, it would be
inappropriate because it would be, it would not be proportional to ask for the construction of an
entire school because presumably four lots doesn't create that much need; a 1,000-lot subdivision
by all means, that might make enough students to need a whole new school or at least a large
contribution to a school. So, anyway,just wanted to give you by way of background. When you
are looking at your conditions, you want to ask yourself: Is the impact created by this approval
going to be rationally related to the impact that we are looking at; and is the amount of the thing
that we are doing proportional? So,just wanted to offer that up as a background rule for you.
VITOUSEK: Thank you. Maija, you have your hand up?
JACKSON: Yes, I have that map available, if you would like to see it.
VITOUSEK: The sewer map?
JACKSON: Yes—
VITOUSEK: Please.
JACKSON: —let me go ahead and share my screen. Can you see this map? This is the subject
property where the hand is located. This is Queen Kalama Avenue, Ali`i Drive, and then
Naniloa Street. So there is a sewer line coming down the street to the east, and then it ends right
about here in Queen Kalama. So they could extend through here and down into their project or
possibly bring this line up through their proposed roadway to the project.
VITOUSEK: And where does it end on the south side?
JACKSON: Oops, sorry, I'm getting all these alerts. You said where does it end on the south
side; it ends right at this point here on Ali`i Drive.
VITOUSEK: Sorry, the other side where there is a gap. Where is the, where is the north side of
the gap to the south going down Ali`i Drive?
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JACKSON: Oh, I see, let me zoom out. I think you may be referring to the private sewer that's
in place in Keauhou, and we do not have a map of that.
VITOUSEK: Okay.
JACKSON: This map just shows the County sewer system.
VITOUSEK: Okay.
ARAI: Sorry, Maija, this is Daryn. I was wondering if you turned off the road center line,
would that show visually where the sewer line is located? Yeah, and then if you zoom in, I think
the red lines will show you where the lines are. And I took a quick look at the construction
drawings, and even though I'm not an engineer, it does appear from the engineering, civil
drawings that the line will come down Pi'ilani Street, which is the new access road that will
connect directly with Alii Drive and then connect with the sewer line heading north that's
already within Alii Drive. But there is no extension south as currently planned.
VAN BERGEN: And that's correct. I said south, and I apologize; I meant north. But if you
look at the construction plans, page 29, 30, and 31, it shows the sewer profile, and Daryn is
correct; it comes down the newly created Pi`ilani Street, takes a right and heads north and
connects to the Alii Drive sewer. That's the plans that were submitted to the County.
VITOUSEK: Okay. Director Kern.
KERN: Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to also just quickly follow up; you asked the
question on the analysis, and I just wanted to state for the record and tell all the commissioners,
everyone who is watching for that matter. When somebody comes in for a time extension, be it
a rezoning or an SMA, we don't just look at it as a time extension for that condition; we actually
do a full analysis of the entire application, the entire request again, as if it were a brand-new
application. We send out to the various departments and agencies for their requests and
comments, and anything that may have changed between the original time of those conditions
and now that would be necessary, those conditions are then amended. So just wanted to make
sure that that was clear to everybody that we do a full analysis on it, not just looking at a time
extension, even though that's what the request is really showing. So if there are any questions to
that, myself or staff are happy to answer any of those. Thank you.
VITOUSEK: Mr. Fuke.
FUKE: I've got to unmute myself. Now, I'm just kind of trying to follow up on what, you
know, Maija Jackson, as well as your counsel Jean Campbell had raised about, you know, like
when you are looking at conditions, you need to address the nexus question, you know, and also
the proportionality. So in years past just to provide some background to address this issue—
the, you know, at the request of the Council the County Planning Department came out with an
overall like impact analysis, and based upon that then they arrived at this formula for your fair
share contribution, one which would address roadways, wastewater system, solid waste, fire, and
police protection, and parks, I'm sorry, so, you know, and that has been kind of like the so-called
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the rational way of assessing, I'm sorry, a proportional way of assessing some of these impacts.
So what I was going to suggest is that, you know, like just the previous application, you know,
there was this fair share requirement; however, at that time the decision makers felt that the
urgent need was not necessarily to divide the fair share contribution into these five categories but
instead to focus it on what was most pressing, and in that situation all of the monies were
diverted towards the Kaloko-Mamalahoa Highway intersection; so there is no fair share money
for parks, solid waste, fire, and police, you know, relative to that application. So what I was
going to suggest is that if the wastewater system is a very crucial one relative to how the
Commissioners are looking at this, you know, possibly, that same concept can be applied over
here such that your entire fair share would be devoted exclusively towards the extension of the
sewer line, you know, like we know that the project is already required to, you know, like
sewered up, but, you know, if you want to have it extended perhaps all the way down to
Kahalu`u Beach Park, you know, like down that area, then you are looking at—I was just doing
the quick math—you know, 15,000 times 62, you are looking at nearly a million dollars of fair
share impact that conceivably could be diverted or used exclusively for a wastewater system,
provided that the County spends the money, though.
VITOUSEK: Yeah, yeah. Thank you, Mr. Fuke, that's very, that's a very helpful suggestion.
Mahalo.
ARAI: And if I could just add just a little to that. As part of that calculus, the applicant is
working, if this time extension is approved, they are looking to develop La'aloa Park, which is
also a requirement in the conditions, you know, so the cost of associated with La'aloa Park can
be credited to their fair share on the park improvements, and that's in the ordinance. And I
should also note that I misspoke earlier, and my apologies, is that because this project is required
to hook up to sewer, there is no specific fair share allocation specific to wastewater.
VAN BERGEN: And, Chair, can I say—
VITOUSEK: Commissioner
VAN BERGEN: —Chair, can I say something?
VITOUSEK: Yes.
VAN BERGEN: Just to follow up on, you know, Daryn mentioned the park, and I think that's a
very important aspect to this project. Just a quick history, the developer originally had a much
bigger development in mind, because they owned several acres makai, or, excuse me, mauka of
this parcel, and it was going to be a 200-plus project. And at that time the County had put in this
Condition C, which said the developer could build a park within, it was a half a mile or so of the
project. Well, even though the overall scope of the developer's work has shrunk dramatically to
the 62 proposed lots from the 250-plus, they kept the same park requirement. This park on
La'aloa is, you know, really, it's really kind of a travesty for the people of Kona in that area. I
lived in Alii Heights for 20 years, so I know it very well. You had Keauhou View and Alii
Heights come in with 500-plus homes, and Towne Development was supposed to put a 11-acre
park in as part of their park fair share, and as a lot of you may know the history, they gave it to
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the YMCA, which, which was good as far as the, you know, the intent, but it never happened.
YMCA went, they went bankrupt—excuse me, getting this phone up—and so there was no park.
So back in 2015 I think, the County went ahead and subdivided the parcel and took 6.2 acres
back, and the Y kept four, and the Y is now developing their four acres, which is great. Well,
back in 2019 and 18 when we were working with the County on this project, very closely with
Parks, with Director Yee, and Planning Department, you know, the park was a very positive
aspect of this because the developer, instead of spending 250,000 in fair share for a park which
would be about what it was, they are going to spend anywhere from two to four million on a
park. That's very badly needed for this part of town. And so I just think that's a, that's a very
generous and a good caveat for this project for community. Now, I know there is folks that are
against the growth due to traffic and other things, but the park is needed greatly in that area, and
that's a huge, in my opinion, plus for this project because the park scale is so much larger than
any fair share would be for a project this size. So I just wanted to throw that out there.
VITOUSEK: Commissioner Paishon-Duarte.
PAISHON-DUARTE: Thank you. And, yeah, thank you, Mr. Van Bergen. I agree, you know,
park space is vitally important for public health. What will be the sale price of each unit when
fully developed?
M. MANSI: I can probably speak to that. Aloha Chair and Commission, my name is
Matt Mansi. I'm the developer project manager. When we were getting ready to get a
construction loan to build this out a few years ago, we were looking at prices in the 700's. And
I suspect that that has changed dramatically since then, but I haven't done a market study yet to
determine what that would be.
VITOUSEK: You are looking at prices for 700's for the sale of homes within this?
M. MANSI: Yes, I'm sorry if I misunderstood the question; I thought you were asking about the
individual homes that we build.
PAISHON-DUARTE: That's correct—
M. MANSI: Okay.
VITOUSEK: You hadn't figured out yet if you were selling lots or selling homes at this point,
so just to clarify it's going to be a built product looking to get upwards of 700. So this is market
stuff. And what is the affordable housing component of this that was mentioned earlier?
M. MANSI: I asked Daryn about that; I'm not quite sure what's required of us.
ARAI: The applicant did satisfy their affordable housing requirements and, through the purchase
of—and again, it just needs to be confirmed—but through the purchase of housing credits. So
from what I understand, those, the requirement has been satisfied. And again, that is, that must
be done prior to the issuance of Final Subdivision Approval.
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VITOUSEK: And for the sake of those of us on the Commission who aren't familiar with it,
would the County mind explaining the housing credit program and how that can suffice an
affordable housing requirement?
JACKSON: Chair—oh, Malia, do you want to respond to that—
KEKAI: Yeah, I got it, Maija.
JACKSON: —you have more information than I do since you are counsel to Housing.
KEKAI: Yep, got it.
JACKSON: Thank you.
KEKAI: Chair, yeah, Chapter 11 of the Hawai`i County Code is the Hawai`i affordable, Hawai`i
County's affordable housing chapter, and basically it states that you have to dedicate 20 percent
of your project units to affordable housing. It also basically lays out that if you purchase credits,
that you can use those credits for your 20 percent and therefore would not actually have to build
the housing yourself, but that money would then be given to, you know, hopefully you are
buying it from an affordable housing developer, which would turn that money around into
affordable housing is usually the intent of it. But that's the basic way that it works. And those
developers usually, the affordable housing developers, because they do more than 20 percent,
they earn excess credits, and that's where they fund their projects. So if they did, you know,
80 percent affordable, then they have, basically 60 percent of the earnings are just excess credits
that they can turn around and sell to other developers to raise money.
VITOUSEK: Commissioner Knowles.
KNOWLES: And are those credits, when are those collected? Up front? Before the project
sells or after the successful, you know, for example, they build the homes, they sell the homes at
market rate, then, then the credits are released? How does that—I'm sorry, I don't unders- I
don't know how that works.
KEKAI: Oh, no, yeah, it's, totally, yeah, so each developer enters into an affordable housing
agreement in that that basically isn't released until they satisfy those terms. But it, they have to
prove to us that they are also—well, if it's rental or sale, right, we have both rental and sale
programs—so if it's sale, for instance, they would have to show that a qualified household
making the required income, you know, has to be below basically from 60 percent to 140 of the
area median income, and they would have to show us that they sold that house to a qualified
buyer, and therefore that would then transfer to, you know, them getting it. But at the end if they
don't sell it to qualified buyers, they don't, they wouldn't meet their requirements.
PAISHON-DUARTE: Commissioner Knowles, are you done or did you—okay. So, follow-up
question, and I'm not sure who this is directed to, I think it's to Mr. Mansi or someone of the
development team. So my question, what is the affordable housing development plan? What is
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going to be the plan? Is it going to, are the credits going to be provided to another developer or
are you folks intending to develop the affordable housing, and if so, where?
M. MANSI: Yea, I think I can speak to that, and Daryn, correct me if I'm wrong. But I believe
we have already purchased the credits, and we have them in our possession. It's been a few
years, but we bought them from another landowner or developer on the island a couple years
ago.
ARAI: That is correct. I think it was called Westview Developments, and 12 housing credits
were purchased in satisfaction of their obligation.
FUKE: If I can just add to that, you know, to Commissioner Paishon-Duarte's question, that the
simple answer is that, yes, they have fulfilled their affordable housing requirement. I think the
question is like whether they would entertain provision of additional affordable housing within
the project or elsewhere. I think that's probably the question that you may be asking, and that's
something that the developer may have to consider.
PAISHON-DUARTE: Follow-up question, are you able to divulge who you are buying the
credits from?
FUKE: They already purchased the credit, and then they've essentially fulfilled the affordable
housing obligation, but it's not unusual for the County, you know, whether the Council, you
know, to require or influence additional affordable housing requirements, and largely coming at
the request of the, you know, the applicant's consent, yeah.
VITOUSEK: I would also point out that they completed the affordable housing component of
the expired ordinance, right? So we are not looking at that ordinance; that ordinance is expired.
So at this time, as Mr. Fuke said, it's perfectly appropriate to recondition that and request
additional affordable housing or additional commitments.
FUKE: Don't get me wrong, I don't want to put words in the client's mouth. But I believe
that—and this maybe can be confirmed by, you know, your counsel—you know, specifically, I
believe that the affordable housing requirement runs with the land, because before the, that
requirement can be satisfied, there has to be an agreement between the landowner and the
County of Office of Housing to specifically state that this requirement has been, you know,
complied with.
PAISHON-DUARTE: If I may follow up—
VITOUSEK: Commissioner Paishon-Duarte.
PAISHON-DUARTE: Thank you. Thank you, I have a question, or comment and then a
question. So my comment is you, I think, Mr. Mansi, you estimated about 700,000 dollars for
sale price; however, it sounds like it needs to be recalculated. So if we were to look, you know,
looking at the current census and you look at Hawai`i Island median income is at 65,000 dollars,
you know, for median household income, so it sounds like the units that would be available for
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purchase, the 62, whether they are all allocated for single-house units, are going to be well
beyond the price point for everyday working families. So that's my comment; that's what it
sounds like. And then my question is, what assurances do you have in place to finance, properly
and adequately finance the project in its totality?
M. MANSI: Yeah, I don't have, I can't stand before you and say we have assurances for
financing, but we do have a lot of interested lenders that we've been talking to that will have
issued us term sheets and would fund upon this extension being granted. So take that for what
it's worth.
PAISHON-DUARTE: Thank you.
VITOUSEK: Commissioner Knowles.
KNOWLES: Yeah, this is a little bit outside of the realm of the affordable housing discussion,
but I did have a question with regard to the, one of the conditions at issue here, which is the
drainage and wanting to amend the condition to allow for a bond or a surety, and I just wanted to
know, kind of following up on Commissioner Paishon-Duarte's question, what is the likelihood
of you getting a successful bond or surety on the drainage piece? I mean, because to me it seems
like that's kind of just kicking the can; you'll see if you can get a loan to do it instead of pay for
it, pay for the work, the infrastructure work, yourself. So I'm just curious about your confidence
with respect to that.
ARAI: Well, maybe I'll try to answer. Right now that is a difficult question to answer because
there is no confidence, because as it stands right now, the time period to complete the
subdivision has lapsed, so any ability to go and talk to find financing companies to get the
necessary bonds and sureties to support the construction of the subdivision, is clearly dependent
on getting the necessary approvals on the entitlements like the Change of Zone and the SMA
permits. The lenders need assurance that this project will go forward before they are willing to
even finance it. So it's sort of like a chicken-egg kind of thing, but it's definitely, the time
extensions are essential for them to even be able to approach these financing companies and
explore the opportunities to get the bonds. And I should note that the drainage improvements are
all integral with all the other subdivision related improvements, the roadway systems in
particular, because the roadways are a hard surface, they capture the water, they put it into dry
wells, and it all gets taken care of in one complete system, and that is why the amendment
request; it's difficult to build the drainage system first up front when the other improvements are
not being constructed concurrently. I hope that makes some sense.
FUKE: Yeah, I'd like to kind of like add to that, Commissioner Knowles, you know, this
specifically ties into how property gets subdivided, and the subdivision process requires that
before you can sell the land and the property becomes, you know, you can have separate TMK
numbers assigned to it, you have to get final subdivision approval, which is issued by the
Planning Director. Now, before final approval can be granted, all of the required infrastructure,
your roadway, your drainage, your waterline, so on and so forth, they all have to be in place,
inspected by the County and said okay fine, and then they'll grant you final approval, and off
you go, you know, selling the lot. The code, however, provides that if you provide a bond plus,
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you know, 10 or 20 percent, depending on, you know, like which agency, more than the
estimated cost of the improvements, then that satisfies the need to actually fulfill the complete
improvements before you can get final approval. But you need to have an agreement between
the County and the developer, which would state that, look, I can guarantee that the
improvements would be in by X period of time, and that guarantee is through this, through this
bond, you know. And so if I fail to, you know, because you are giving me ability to now sell the
property, okay, and if I fail to make those improvements, County, you are hereby authorized to
use the bond, cash it in and make the improvements, because you have had all of these individual
property owners that purchased property with the expectation that the improvements would be in.
You know, over and beyond that, while you can get a building permit for property that's been
bonded, you know, like you have final approval, you won't be able to get occupancy until all of
the improvements are in. So what the, the request right now is just to say that, you know, like
the current request is that you already have the ability to bond your roadway system, your
waterline, and all of that, why did you exclude drainage? So the request is just to kind of wrap
everything together.
KNOWLES: Got it.
FUKE: Thank you.
KAY: Mr. Chair, if I can just take you back on that—Christian, again—I did kind of an
exhaustive review of the record to determine why that trigger was there prior to Final
Subdivision Approval, and the best that I can ascertain is that it's likely that that was just a
standard condition of approval that was applied back then; there was nothing in the letter from
DPW at the time that had any kind of trigger there, so, and other conditions in the ordinance that
allowed for bonding of other roadway improvements. So, that and the allowance for bonding
that's within our Subdivision Code led us to recommend, and the Director to recommend,
approval of the amendment. Thank you.
VITOUSEK: Commissioners, questions?
PAISHON-DUARTE: Sorry,just one final question, thank you. And this was, many of the
testifiers this morning had mentioned that there is a lack of a tsunami evacuation plan. Is that a
requirement for this development or is that—why, why are the testifiers, why did many folks that
testified indicate that that was something that we should look at or consider?
ARAI: Well, I'll try to answer that. A tsunami evacuation plan, we've seen it before in permits
for other types of developments within the Special Management Area, especially when there is a
direct concern that property could be affected by, what am I saying, the high, coastal high water,
you know, like storm waves along the shoreline, and that's when, you know, that's when some of
those plans come in place. But the fact that this property is in an evacuation area, you know, I
don't think the applicant would have any objections to including it in the SMA permit to prepare
a tsunami evacuation plan as part of this approval.
PAISHON-DUARTE: Thank you, Mr. Arai. County? County members, do you have any,
anything else to share?
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KERN: I'd like to add, if I may,just on the tsunami evacuation plan. I've been in meetings
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VITOUSEK: Zendo, we can't really, Director Kern, we can't hear you very well. Director
Kern?
KERN: —these tsunami evacuation[indiscernible–connection disturbance]—
VITOUSEK: Director Kern, are you there? Director Kern? Director Kern, are you there? We
couldn't hear you. It was, it's cutting up, and you are frozen. You look good, though.
KERN: [Indiscernible connection disturbance]Is that any better? Is that any better? No?
VITOUSEK: Yeah, okay, that seems better—
KERN: It's not working—
VITOUSEK: —but, you know, we could—
KERN: —gathering up my iPad[indiscernible connection disturbance] now?
VITOUSEK: No.
KERN: Is that better? Continue, I'll, I'm going to try to reboot.
VITOUSEK: Roger. Okay, Commissioners? [None] Okay, let's see, and this is something I
would like to have a discussion with the Commissio- Director Kern present. Well, I guess before
he can go ahead and reboot and talk about this, has the Cultural Resources Commission had the
opportunity to review this project?
KAY: No, Mr. Chair, they have not.
VITOUSEK: As a, you know, larger project affecting multiple historic properties, and with such
a qualified Cultural Resources Commission seated at the County level, I think this would be an
ideal candidate for review by the Cultural Resources Commission to provide a recommendation
to Planning Department or Planning Commission on the permitting side of it, SMA permit. Is
that something the developer would consider?
ARAI: Sure, I mean, if the Commission feels compelled that this is—and obviously, it is
important—so, yeah, we'll make every effort to present this project before the Cultural
Resources Commission.
VITOUSEK: And from the County side, is the commission meeting? Are they able to meet? Is
it, do they have a quorum?
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JACKSON: Chair Vitousek, yes, I believe they are meeting, and they do have a quorum. I
would just ask for,just kind of asking what you would like them to address, because the project
has gone through SHPD review, it's gone through Burial Council review. So typically, we send
projects to them that haven't gone through that extensive review or have some unique issue that
the County needs assistance resolving. So I'm, I'm just wondering what you would like to
achieve from the Burial Coun- the, the CRC.
VITOUSEK: The commission? Well, I think the question we had, one of the questions we had
that was raised by Commissioner Kanuha, was the level of consultation with descendant
members of the community in planning the overall construction of this project, and I think the
Cultural Resources Commission could be an appropriate location to have that type of discussion
on whether descendant access issues are fully resolved in the burial treatment plan, whether
additional descendant access and open space requirements should be proposed that would
mitigate the impact of this project on the cultural landscape. Some of the things that were
mentioned by the testifiers was the impact on the overall cultural landscape, and SHPD may have
site-by-site mitigations for each specific site that was identified in the archaeological inventory,
but they may not have considered the effect of the overall project on the landscape and how to
design that project in a way that minimizes impacts to the historic landscape. And so giving the
Cultural Resources Commission the opportunity to review the overall project with SHPD's
recommendations and provide their own recommendations on how a project like this can move
forward in an area with the historic significance that it is known to have.
JACKSON: Okay, I think that's something we can do. Just going forward, is that something
that you would like the Department to do for every project that has like burial sites on it that
have gone through Burial Council review or—
VITOUSEK: I would love that, yeah—
KANUHA: Yeah, it—
JACKSON: —are you suggesting this for projects where there is an older burial treatment plan
that's approved or any burial sites?
VITOUSEK: I think that, I think that any major project, which I would consider this to be a
pretty major project, having impact on cultural resources, whether there is burial treatment plans,
whether there is preservation plans, should be reviewed by the Cultural Resources Commission
as a step before coming in here. I think that will be a great thing. I think we have that resource
with a tremendously capable people on that commission, and I would love to make use of it.
JACKSON: Okay, great, thank you. That's something that we can certainly consider.
VITOUSEK: Awesome
VAN BERGEN: Can I ask a question, Chairman?
VITOUSEK: Sure, yes.
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VAN BERGEN: Just for clarity from the developer's side, and I want to speak for the Mansi
family for all they gave, but I'm fairly confident that they would agree that, you know, any
cultural community type things to work with, we are 100 percent in favor of; we want to make
sure that burials—both burial sites are very accessible, so if there is any descendants that want to
visit the burial sites, as laid out by the SHPD requirements, they are both off, they are both
extremely, you know, accessible. But as far as—I'm not real familiar with the Cultural
Commission you are referring to as far as processes go, and it's this late in the process—would
they, are we talking about a possible redesign of the whole PUD layout and all the infrastructure
and the way the, because we are looking at a pretty dense subdivision here of 62 lots on 11 acres.
There has been hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on infrastructure plans, civil engineering,
roadways. So, was there, are we talking about recommendations like a different layout
potentially or is it mainly just access issues, making sure that whoever needs to have access has
access? I'm just going to be, I'm just going to want a little clarity on what exactly they would be
doing for this project.
VITOUSEK: Yeah, and, you know, can't really answer that; I can't speak on their behalf on
what things they would see as important and then they wouldn't. If I were to be reviewing a
project like this, I would be looking at the mitigation measures for the sites and what options can
be done. I don't know what they'd be proposing, but I think that giving them the opportunity to
consider is a good thing.
VAN BERGEN: Thank you.
VITOUSEK: Next question would be a larger one about the zoning and the SMA permit having
expired. And this is a topic that we have gone over many, many times, but we've got new
Planning Commissioners here, and so I think it's an appropriate opportunity to have the
discussion about what happens in the instances where we are receiving a request for a time
extension on something that has already expired and the deadline to apply for a timed extension
has not been met. So in cases where the deadline has expired but the developer has applied for a
time extension within the time required to apply for a time extension, you are operating in the
normal area of time extension. In this case there is a clear expiration of the zoning ordinance and
of the SMA permit, but we are still doing this under a time extension. And so, in the past the
discussions we've centered around things like zoning, you know. In this case we've got two
different issues, zoning and Special Management Area permit. Zoning is a recommendation to
the County Council, so we are making a recommendation on whether they should move forward
with it to the County Council. But the SMA permit is a specific permit coming from the
Planning Commission, we issue them the permit to proceed, we are the final authority on that
permit. And whereas with zoning they may not be in compliance with the conditions of that
zoning ordinance, they may not have met the time requirements for it, but that zoning becomes
stale, as the Department puts it, and reviving that requires reconditioning it; you don't really
reapply for zoning. But with the permit it's expired. Will you again explain why we are
extending something that in effect isn't there?
JACKSON: Basically, right now our rules for SMA permits are not crystal clear, and so the
process has been if a condition of a permit has expired—and I want to make a distinction there,
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it's the condition that's expired or not been met, not the permit that has expired—then the
practice has been for the applicant to come in and request a time extension. The only alternative
to that would be to do something similar to what the Commission did for the project on Ali`i
Drive called Diamond Resorts where they put in deadlines, specific timelines, that need to be
met, and if those aren't met, then there is language in the permit that says this permit will be null
and void. Right now we don't have any of that language in our rules that says if you don't meet
the timeline, the permit is automatically null and void. So it requires some additional action by
the Commission in order for that permit to become void.
VITOUSEK: So it's because the condition hasn't been met, that conditions expired, not the
overall permit?
JACKSON: Correct, the permit is still, it's, it's still a valid permit, the condition of the permit
has been met, and the permit is still valid until an action is taken to void the permit or revoke the
permit.
VITOUSEK: Director Kern.
KERN: I just wanted to add on, as I mentioned earlier, we still do a full analysis of it, you know,
top to bottom. So I feel whether it was, you know, expired all the way or just a condition, time
extension for the condition, we are at the same place. I feel like there is a perception that
because we are doing a time extension, there is really no analysis done, it's just, I'll just give
them more time. And that's not the case; like we do go through the whole process, and if
something has changed, we change it. Obviously, you can hear me, right? So, okay, awesome.
VITOUSEK: Yeah, we can hear you, yeah.
FUKE: If I can add to that, I think that, you know, Mr. Chairman, and that's why if you look at
the application, it included a traffic assessment, you know, whereas normally like in just a
standard time extension, it wouldn't. And I think also as like the staff kind of pointed out, you
have provisions in the Code, the Zoning Code, which expressly states that if you don't exercise
the permit, then it's not voidable; it's automatically voided. For example, like Plan Approval, it
specifically states that if you don't exercise the Plan Approval, it's void. Now, in the SMA
condition, I'm just kind of reading it right now, you have Condition number seven- the new
Condition number 17, and which was the existing one, it says that "Should any of the conditions
not be met or substantially complied with in a timely fashion, the Planning Director may initiate
procedures to revoke the permit." So if, there is a discretion given to the Planning Director, as
far as whether he or she is going to initiate a revocation process, and if he initiates the revocation
process, it still has to, you know, out of, you know, out of an abundance of caution, you know,
for due process, it still has to be vetted and going to the Planning Commission, you know, for
action. So if you want to change this to become like automatically void, then, then I guess that's
your Commission's prerogative, you know, but the language would have to expressly state that.
VITOUSEK: Okay, thank you. My next question is in regards to the, I guess it would be the
Hawai`i Two2 property located makai of the Hawai`i Onel property. So the access to the
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Hawai`i Onel property for this development is going through the Hawai`i Two2 property, but
that's not part of this SMA? Is that correct?
ARAI: That's, it's not a part of this SMA. That's correct.
VITOUSEK: Why is that?
ARAI: Because—
VAN BERGEN: Because that's added after the fact. I mean we've got an SMA Minor for the
road specifically. I think it was back in 2018 or 2019. But it wasn't part of the original 2009
SMA because that parcel wasn't, at that particular time the access was going to be off Naniloa
only, and this was added at a later date.
KAY: The Change of Zone ordinance gave the landowners options on how to provide for
roadway improvements to access the property. They chose option one, which was to extend the
roadway from Alii Drive through that intermediary parcel. And so because it met the
requirements for a Minor Permit, they came through and permitted it through an SMA Minor
Permit process. And that was part of the applicant's exhibits to you showing the Minor Permit
for that. So it wasn't wrapped into the SMA Major because it was done after the ordinance in the
original Major were approved.
VITOUSEK: Obviously, it's all part of the same project. Would it make sense to wrap it into
this SMA now?
KAY: I don't know why it would because they've already gotten approval for that roadway
onto, or across that makai parcel. So they've already, they've already met the requirements for
SMA review for that roadway.
VITOUSEK: Right, but I mean the thing that I guess I'm struggling with is how a roadway for a
major development would be considered SMA Minor. Wouldn't it have a cumulative impact? I
mean, would we be analyzing that? I guess that would be, is that, I mean, wouldn't, wouldn't we
be thinking that's a cumulative impact that increase from the development that that's serving?
ARAI: I jump—oh, sorry.
KAY: No, go ahead, Daryn.
ARAI: At this point in the game I don't see it as cumulative impact because it was clearly
expressed as a mitigating option in the Change of Zone ordinance. It's more of a mitigation
action rather than a cumulative action. That's the way I see it. I, and again, because that option
was expressed in the Change of Zone ordinance of the current project site.
VAN BERGEN: One of the factors with that road was, was that the parties didn't own that
parcel; it was owned by John Metzler. And so, that roadway wasn't really an option until the
property was acquired in 20- either 2018 or 2019. At first, we negotiated an easement with John,
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but then we ended up acquiring the parcel. But that was never really an option back in 2009,
between 2009 and 2018, because there was no control over that land, that parcel,just FYI.
ARAI: And, Mr. Chairman, yeah, I can also note that in the abundance of caution, the possibility
of Hawai`i Two2 being pursued was included in the traffic impact analysis report, and so that
was like, sort of like the best case scenario, and even with that, the additional—I think it was
possibility of 50 additional units—even with that, the intersections had the sufficient capacity for
both projects. But be, again, be aware that it was just something included in the analysis as a as
a worst-case scenario.
VITOUSEK: All right, I mean, and that's sort of what I'm referring to in terms of cumulative
impact is that if you are building a development road, the purpose for building that is to develop
the areas that are adjacent to that road, right?
ARAI: I mean that would be optimal, sure, if you are building an expensive road.
VITOUSEK: That's why you are, that's why you are building the road. Yep, go ahead,
Christian.
KAY: I would say that if in the event that the Hawai`i Two2 property were to come in and try
and actualize a development of that property, they would have to go through, well, State Land
Use boundary amendment and rezoning, as well as an SMA Major Use Permit process, at that
point. Going through the Minor Permit process was an option available to them, given the scope
of the roadway project as a standalone connector road.
VITOUSEK: Okay. And, oh, last question I guess would be for the developers. I'm just
curious; what was the source of financing, and why was it lost, for the project?
M. MANSI: It was a construction loan and from a bank in California.
VITOUSEK: And why was it lost?
M. MANSI: Well, we ran out of time. We were up against our time extension, or we were up
against our permit expiring, or entitlements expiring.
VITOUSEK: Okay, so they had the same conditions for completion that we did, but they just
walked away when their conditions weren't met.
M. MANSI: Yeah, we had a number of lenders walk away. Each time we met with a different
one and went down the road, and it took months, so we eventually ran out of time.
VITOUSEK: Okay, and this time around, what would be different?
M. MANSI: Well, I'm hopeful that with market conditions the way they are and housing, the
demand for housing, that there will be a stronger appetite with lenders. And I've seen that so far
in the couple that I've talked to and then I have term sheets from.
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VITOUSEK: I guess the question is not necessarily in terms of the lender's willingness to lend
but in terms of the developer's ability to complete the requirements.
VAN BERGEN: Can I, can I add to that, Man?
VITOUSEK: Yes.
VAN BERGEN: One of the major differences this time around is we have all the County
approvals. We were caught, you know, I worked with Jeff and Daryn and, you know, Planning,
Public Works, well, I mean we worked for two years on getting on the final parts of this project
put together, and that's why we had, you know, Public Works finally approved the plans. But it
wasn't until late summer, early fall of 2018. And just we got really short on time. We got hung
up in Housing unfortunately—and Malia could talk to us if she is still on, but I don't see her—
for whatever reason our housing agreement got delayed under Neil's watch for literally 10 and a
half months, and it really delayed the final approvals on the process. But the short answer is we
had literally two months at the end to get everything finalized, and then we just ran out of time.
This time around the process from the County approval standpoint is in place, so accessing
finance that, you know, you have a five-year window to get your financing done. It's a, this is a
completely different scenario.
VITOUSEK: So the clock ran out—and what was actually remaining to be done? Was it, was
there any construction component that was remaining to be done before receiving the Final
Subdivision Approval?
VAN BERGEN: When you say construction component, are you refer- what are you referring
to?
VITOUSEK: Infrastructure, I mean, is there a requirement to complete roads, drainage, all that
stuff'?
VAN BERGEN: Yes, that's what the financial is for.
VITOUSEK: That's for what?
VAN BERGEN: That's what the financing was for.
VITOUSEK: Right, right, but I mean, you know, you are coming up against this deadline, and
you completed this for two years, but if you, you know, don't, you are not going to finish that
kind of work in two months. So if you would have started that work, how long would that have
taken to get it completed?
VAN BERGEN: It's not so much starting the work is we didn't get the, we didn't get the
approvals to start work, because we were going through the entitlement process, which included
all the ordinance requirements, you know, all A through Z, and the couple that, we got hung up
on a couple that really cost us time. One was housing, unfortunately. The other was DPW; we
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had to work through some sight distance issues on the new Pi'ilani Road connection to Alii that
took some time to navigate with Engineering. The Park's approval went fairly well, but that was
complex; we got a full set of park plans that needed to be approved for Condition C. So, it's just
getting to the conditions brought us up to the deadline, and then when we finally got our
conditions done, it just, we couldn't hit that February 9, 2019, cutoff, and it expired. So my
point is this time around those entitlement processes have been done for the most part, and so we
are starting kind of with a fresh timeline, with the approvals kind of behind us, and so it's a little
bit, it's quite a different situation than last time.
VITOUSEK: I mean it seems like there was a pretty good head of steam going up to that 2019
deadline, with lots of progress being made. Why didn't you apply for the extension when it was
still valid?
VAN BERGEN: I think we—Matt, why didn't we, Man? I don't remember. There was a
reason. I know that we talked about it, and then—
M. MANSI: Well, I think, I think partly the wind got knocked out of our sails a little bit, and
then, you know, economic factors took a hold and—I'm not quite sure exactly why, but I think it
was a combination of some of those things.
VITOUSEK: Economic factors in 2019? What would those be?
M. MANSI: Well, I'm referring to more, you know, a year later.
VITOUSEK: Yeah, but I mean we are talking about 2019 and making progress and no one knew
that the pandemic was coming. So in 2019 when you guys are making progress on this, what,
what's, why not apply for the extension at that time?
M. MANSI: Yeah, I can't really answer that, as I don't recall, but I remember definitely the
wind getting knocked out of our sales quite a bit.
VITOUSEK: Mr. Arai.
ARAI: You know, in dealing with the applicants recently I kind of went through some of the
records, and as Mr. Van Bergen mentioned, I was somewhat familiar with this project when I
was still working, but the way I understand it is that their intentions were always to bond the
subdivision improvements as Mr. Fuke mentioned, and that will allow them to get Final
Subdivision Approval without actually putting in all the improvements, but the bonding and
subdivision agreement will ensure that those improvements get put in like within the short time
frame after final is granted; usually it's anywhere between one to two years or so. So that is why
it got really compressed for the end of 2019 where everything was being done to try to get to that
point where they can execute the subdivision agreement and secure it with a bond, and it got so
compressed that it wasn't so much they needed the time to construct it, they needed the time to
get the bonding and the subdivision agreement executed. And then when that all fell out because
the financing company said you just don't have that much of a window available, then that's
when I guess, as Man said, the winds got knocked out of their sales.
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VIOTUSEK: Are there any examples—I mean, not knowing anything about your company—
where you successfully completed projects that you can share with us so that we would have
confidence in your ability to complete the requirements that are being put on the permit?
M. MANSI: Yeah, so we are, we are based in California. My family built a home in Kailua-
Kona in 2006, and we share time between there and here. But we primarily build in California,
and we've built a number of multi-family and single-family projects over the last 15 years
probably 500-plus units. So I could, happy to share more of those with you when it's
appropriate. If it's appropriate now, I could probably bring up a couple.
VITOUSEK: Commissioners, does anybody have any interest in seeing the completion of the
company's projects?
KNOWLES: Yeah [inaudible simultaneous speech]
VITOUSEK: I mean it seems like what we are going towards is, you know, with the agreement
for a review by the Cultural Resources Commission; perhaps after at the next meeting you could
come together with a little more information on the company and on the projects that you've
completed in the past and on your ability to complete this project and present that to the
Commission so that the Commission will have confidence in the ability to complete the
requirements.
M. MANSI: Yeah, I'm happy to provide that in our presentation next time—
VITOUSEK: Terrific, terrific. That would be great—
KANUHA: Appreciate it.
VITOUSEK: —and I think at the next meeting possibly including the archaeological consultant
in case there are questions on the mitigation measures specifically, as that was a pretty major
topic discussed by the public testifiers.
KNOWLES: And, Chair, now that we have Director Kern back on the call, can we get an
answer to the tsunami evacuation question before we hop off this—
VITOUSEK: Yes, absolutely.
KERN: Let's hope the Internet holds. You can hear me all right?
VITOUSEK: For now.
KERN: As I speak, everyone is freezing, but I'll keep talking for a second. So just for your
awareness, I've been in a[Indiscernible connection disturbance]
ARAI: May I suggest that he turn off his video?
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KANUHA: Yes, turn off your videos, Zendo, then we probably can hear you better.
KERN: I'm going to—I am going to try my other phone.
VITOUSEK: And then, while Zendo is not here, the tsunami evacuation plan would pertain to
this development only, correct?
ARAI: As we understand it, yes, because that's the matter before you.
KERN: Is that any better[echo]
VITOUSEK: Yes, but you are going to want to mute one of yourselves.
KERN: I get told that frequently. Okay, is that better?
VITOUSEK: Yes.
KERN: Okay, so we've been in a very comprehensive discussion around a tsunami evacuation.
So we just had a meeting I believe about a week and a half ago, Civil Defense, Public Works,
Parks and Rec, also the State DOT to go over the tsunami evacuation routes and areas, and this
area is addressed with the checkpoints, etcetera, on how they would be handling this. So if the
Commission feels like something particular is needed for this subdivision exactly, then you could
do that. But I just want to let you guys know that the general area around the island has had a
comprehensive look. There is a checkpoint right around the side connection street of this
project, and then also in these areas of tsunami evac, there will be Police, DPW, as well as Fire,
in these areas notifying people that, you know, tsunami is on its way, etcetera. So I just want to
say if there is something, it links up very well to what's already being done in this general area.
KNOWLES: Thanks, Zendo. May I, Chair? It sounded like the concern from the testimony this
morning was density issues as well to so many people and inadequate kind of ingress and egress
with this additional development adding more people, and not necessarily having the sort of
roadway infrastructure to handle evacuations. That's what I understood from the testimony.
KERN: Sure. Just for your awareness, in our conversations with Civil Defense, etcetera, that
didn't necessarily come up. I do think there are some areas that definitely are a bit more of a
chokepoint in this area. My feeling is it's not so much, but I think that's also possibly subjective.
But again, that didn't come up in any of our actual meetings. We had discussion around this
specific area because I talked about moving one of the checkpoints.
KNOWLES: Well, maybe we could have a little more information on that and the impact of this
project as planned on the ability of existing sort of evacuation.
KERN: Sure, we can talk to Civil Defense about that.
KNOWLES: It would be helpful, especially with what is going on in Waikoloa now.
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KERN: Sure.
VITOUSEK: Okay. Commissioners, would anybody like to make the motion to defer pending
review by Cultural Resources Commission? Maija, yes.
JACKSON: Thank you, Chair. Just for your information the next meeting of the Cultural
Resources Commission is May 11`h, so likely we'd not be able to bring this back to Planning
Commission until their June meeting, until your June meeting.
VITOUSEK: Okay. Commissioner DeFranco.
DEFRANCO: So I'm in, I think we are looking to defer this then, is that right? So we, what we
want to do is make a recommendation to defer this?
VITOUSEK: Yes.
DEFRANCO: —June, so I move that we defer this meeting until the June meeting when we
have all of the pieces together that everyone here wants to hear about. And that is the application
for Hawai`i Onel Investors LLC, and this has to do with the PL-REZ-2022-14 to amend the
rezoning and at the same time—
VITOUSEK: Oh sorry, I just, specify the language reflecting review by the Cultural Resource
Commission.
DEFRANCO: Right, the Cultural Resources Commission and, yes, and that the other people that
are supposed to be present at the meeting—
PAISHON-DUARTE: The archaeologist.
DEFRANCO: —the archaeologist that should be present at the meeting so that we have all,
everything here so that we can determine a recommendation.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo.
PAISHON-DUARTE: Second.
VITOUSEK: Okay. Any discussion? Seeing none, we proceed with the vote.
KAY: Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to confirm the second was from Commissioner
Paishon-Duarte?
VITOUSEK: Correct.
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KAY: Okay, thank you. All right, so this is on the motion to defer until June Leeward Planning
Commission meeting—I'm sorry, do I have that correct that we are stating a specific date or after
they are able to meet with CRC?
VITOUSEK: It's up to the motion maker, but to me it makes sense not to put a specific date on
it but to allow them to have the opportunity to review with the CRC.
DEFRANCO: Yes, after the opportunity to meet with the CRC.
KAY: Until CRC review, okay. Great. So Commissioner, pardon me, Vice Chair DeFranco?
DEFRANCO: Aye.
KAY: Commissioner Paishon-Duarte?
PAISHON-DUARTE: Aye.
KAY: Commissioner Dela Cruz?
DELA CRUZ: Aye.
KAY: Commissioner Kanuha?
KANUHA: Aye.
KAY: Commissioner Knowles?
KNOWLES: Aye.
KAY: And Chair Vitousek?
VITOUSEK: Aye.
KAY: Thank you, Mr. Chair, motion carries, six-nothing with one excused.
VIOTUSEK: And then we will need a same motion for the next agenda item. Say so moved?
PAISHON-DUARTE: So moved.
VITOUSEK: Okay, so moved. To restate, motion by Commissioner Paishon-Duarte, the motion
is to defer until the Cultural Resource Commission has the opportunity to review the Special
Management Area Permit. Second?
KNOWLES: Second.
KANUHA: Second.
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VIOTUSEK: All right, Commissioner Knowles seconded that one amongst others.
KNOWLES: All right.
VITOUSEK: On the record. And any discussion? Okay, seeing none, we'll move with the vote.
KAY: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Commissioner Paishon-Duarte?
PAISHON-DUARTE: Aye.
KAY: Commissioner Knowles?
KNOWLES: Aye.
KAY: Vice Chair DeFranco?
DEFRANCO: Aye.
KAY: Commissioner Dela Cruz?
DELA CRUZ: Aye.
KAY: Commissioner Kanuha?
KANUHA: Aye.
KAY: And Chair Vitousek?
VITOUSEK: Aye.
KAY: Thank you, Mr. Chair, motion carries, six-nothing with one excused.
VITOUSEK: Mahalo. Thank you to the applicant. You will be notified of the decision in
writing, and we'll see you again.
ARAI: Thank you, Commissioners, Director, and staff. Much appreciated. Thank you for your
time—
VITOUSEK: Mahalo.
ARAI: —take care.
VAN BERGEN: Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Commissioners. Aloha.
ARAI: Aloha.
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The hearing ended at 2:42 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Noriko Sauer, Secretary
Leeward Planning Commission
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AGENDA
CULTURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
COUNTY OF HAWAII
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN of the following matters to be considered by the Hawaii County
Cultural Resources Commission (CRC) in accordance with the provisions of Chapters 91 and 92,
Hawaii Revised Statutes and Chapter 2, Article 44 of the Hawaii County Code.
NOTE: Pursuant to Act 220, Session Laws of Hawaii 2021, which amended the Sunshine Law to
allow meetings to be remotely conducted online, effective January 1, 2022, the Cultural Resources
Commission meetings will be held online, and the location listed below for the public to provide
testimony on agenda items. The meeting can be viewed live online or at the location listed below.
DATE: Wednesday, June 8, 2022
TIME: 10:00 AM
LOCATION: Kona Planning Department Conference Room
West Hawaii Civic Center
74-5044 Ane Keohokalole Hwy #e, Kailua-Kona, HI 96740
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Zoom interactive video conference platform. The public will be able to view and listen to the
meeting at: https://www.youtube.com/c/CountyofHawaiiPlanningDepartment/videos. Testimony
may be given upon registering via the Zoom link, or at the in-person location provided. Minutes of
the Cultural Resources Commission meeting will be transcribed and posted on the Planning
Department's website.
CALL TO ORDER
Approval of Addendum and/or Supplemental Agenda (requires six (6) votes and must comply with
HRS § 92-7(d)).
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particular item on this agenda will be taken at the time the particular item is called to order.
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BUSINESS OF COMMISSION
1. Hawaii Onel Investors LLC's Amendment to Change of Zone Ordinance No. 09-8 and
Special Management Area Use Permit No. 07-024 related to a proposed 65-lot, single-
family residential subdivision on parcel (3)7-7-008:121, Pahoehoe 1st, Kapala'alaea
2nd, North Kona,Hawaii.
On May 10, 2022, the Planning Director forwarded a request from the Leeward Planning
Commission to the CRC for consultation by way of review, comments, and/or
recommendations consistent with CRC Rule 4-3(b).
ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS
1. Approval of minutes of the meeting held on May 11, 2022.
2. Next meeting tentatively scheduled for Wednesday, July 13, 2022.
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