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JT: Sure. <br /> <br />LT: We got about 3 minutes, but this is a fast one… <br /> <br />JT: OK. <br /> <br />LT: Um, ah, you kinda covered everything, I just want to ask your opinion about the <br />helicopter eradications – I was in Texas a couple of times and I know they have, you <br />know, the veterans they have machine guns from the helicopters – we don’t have that <br />here in Hawaii yet for the hogs – we do have it for the sheep… <br /> <br />JT: True… <br /> <br />LT: I don’t \[unclear\] machine guns but in your opinion did that help – does that help to <br />stabilize the community or was that more of a gimmick kind of a thing? <br /> <br />JT: OK, I’m, yeah, so, my, my professional opinion here it’s - it depends on who’s shooting <br />and the equipment they have. So a lot of times when you see it, it’s recreational <br />shooting and it’s civilian aircraft so it’s Robinson Helicopters and they’ve got center fire <br />rifles and they’ve got folks that are not used to shooting from helicopters and I believe <br />that they’re burning ammo and having a good time – but if you watch the videos of <br />those – what will happen is the Robinson type helicopters are the small civilian <br />helicopters – they have to fly a certain speed to stay airborne and it’s faster than a pig <br />runs. So usually they’ll make a pass on a group of pigs and it breaks the pigs up. And <br />they might shoot at one or two, they might hit ‘em, they might not. When we worked <br />with the USDA folks that are using jet – so turbine helicopters – jet powered helicopters <br />– they can go slow and if you get a group of pigs out in the open and you stay behind <br />them – we call it climbing the ladder – you shoot the last pig in the group and then the <br />next one, the next one, the next one – cause they run in a straight line. That is extremely <br />effective where we can use aerial methods, we use them because they’re much more <br />cost effective and much more effective. What we shoot from the helicopters though is <br />we use semi-automatic shot guns so we’re using usually Benelli shotguns with a tube <br />extender and we’re shooting buckshot. When the USDA guys are flying its number two <br />buck and it’s, it’s non-toxic loads that we developed, non-lead loads, um, a lot of the <br />private guys that are using shotguns, they’re using double lock buck and they’re using <br />lead. But it can be very, very effective – the trick is having a good pilot and a good <br />shooter, not just somebody who’s out there for fun but somebody who’s got experience <br />if that makes sense. <br />LT: Yes, sir, all right, thank you very much. We’re gonna take a short recess after this but <br />can you please let us know where we can contact you or how we can get in touch with <br />you please. <br /> <br />JT: Yeah, absolutely. I’m gonna drop my email address in your Chat window and by all <br />means feel free to email me, I’m happy to help in any way I can. <br />23 <br /> <br />