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TWC: All right. District – 2 \[unclear\]. I am in the work still with – for the – \[unclear\]. I’ve been <br />working with KED for spread Lili’o’kalani\] Gardens regarding the feral cat and feces and <br />any problem that the feral cats impact on Nene. I did have a small – known as a public <br />meeting, right, we just offered a few DOFAW officers recently with Abraham – it’s in the <br />public member – community member, um, this is in regards to Unit H fence, yeah, we’re <br />pretty much – gonna be drafting up a basically something that’s better than fencing, you <br />know, anything \[unclear\] our discussion was , you know, the problem over there is to – <br />the impact of the birds. There’s no fence that can hold back mosquito, so we’ve got to <br />resolve something on that. They are willing to work, and possibly open up, the old upper <br />forest reserve over Waiakea. <br />Alongside Stainback that leads to the, I believe it’s Torch tree replanting, and possibly I <br />did mention to them and we’re still in talks of that, but, it’s really up in the air I just <br />figured I’d throw out there since we are losing hunting areas for rifle, maybe possibly <br />cause the numbers are low with archery hunting in Mauna Loa to maybe make it and on <br />and off season for rifle as well access on Mauna Loa, and, also I got one more thing – I <br />was speaking with how Makahanaloa – the public access with regards to county <br />jurisdiction as well being down there, ah, I was talking with \[unclear\] Makahanaloa <br />Fishing Association president and if we do \[unclear\] discussions next Monday, be willing <br />to come in person – DOFAW, KED this week, yeah… <br /> <br />LT: Right on, \[unclear\], thank you. OK. So, going back to the on and off rifle season on <br />Mauna Loa – any, any unit, any hunting unit in particular you see that happening with – <br />that’s the easiest or, what, what is – how are your ideas on that? <br /> <br />TWC: Well, we didn’t get into detail with that – we just – I asked for like how often hunters <br />are going up there – they said the most they’ve seen in a long time was six in a weekend <br />and it’s just all archery, right? <br /> <br />LT: Yeah. <br /> <br />TWC: Ah, I not going count Mauna Kea at this point because it’s like, you know, we’ve been <br />banned that for a long time, yes, see coming here there once in a while but, you know, <br />the – we basically losing that, right, we lost a slice recently – basically Kapapala Ranch is <br />on edge right now – so we don’t know how much longer we’re going to have that I don’t <br />know the whole situation like who’s going to be taking over that but if we lose those <br />areas that’s a big impact on the \[unclear\] so why not try and mitigate something into <br />possibly maybe a half season for rifle on Mauna Loa. Because my experience is a, you <br />know, \[unclear\] on Mauna Loa as well. Not everybody’s willing to take that walk as an <br />archery hunter, so, you know, maybe give some ground for the \[unclear\] walkers, you <br />know? <br /> <br />LT: Yeah, sounds good. Cause I only hunt go up there anyway… <br /> <br />TWC: Yeah. <br />4 <br /> <br />