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Greenwell: I'd like to commend Brandon if people haven't read that report, very well <br />written, it was a good report. <br />Nishimoto: And it was a good trip, you had said it was a very good trip. Okay, <br />anything else? <br />Okabe: I had a question about, you know on the second page, the second paragraph <br />about the cannabis, what is that saying? Being used in cocktails as well, Panel 3, the <br />second paragraph. <br />Gonzalez: Right, so there's a trend where they're adding the THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) <br />to cocktails, or they were already providing edibles in certain bars on the mainland, so that's <br />something that more jurisdictions are becoming aware of as more states are getting asked if <br />they can allow it or not. And then, sometimes they're not being added to alcohol cocktails, but <br />they're being served in a bar. So, there's your regular standard alcohol drinks, but there's also <br />THC-infused (tetrahydrocannabinol-infused) drinks with no alcohol also being offered in the bar. <br />And so, there's a question on how that's going to be regulated, and what the duties are of the <br />licensee. As you guys are aware, that have gone to some of the trainings, we do have states <br />that the regulation of marijuana and THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) is also done by their Liquor <br />Enforcement Agency, they have a dual role. We're not there yet, in fact our State was exploring <br />it, so that's why a lot of the discussion came up to talk about the trends and how the business <br />models are changing and evolving, so it was that type of discussion. <br />Okabe: But reading that at our conference, they never talked about those kind of things <br />yeah, you know what I mean? <br />Takase: I think they have at the national level, they've been talking. <br />Okabe: Oh, the national level, but not at our convention in Maui, they didn't talk about <br />that. <br />Takase: Although, nationwide most of the liquor departments are run by the state, we're one <br />of the few that is drilled down to the county level. So, it's kind of unnatural for them once they <br />start again, I think there's probably a dozen states down there that have approved marijuana. <br />Most of them by and large have attached it to their liquor departments, so it's a <br />big increase for them. I talked to the Oregon guy, he says they went from 100 agents or 100 <br />employees, and with marijuana they added 300 more people to their staff, so it's a big deal <br />because once they decriminalize marijuana, they're going to defund portions of the police <br />department. I don't see us going the same route because I think we will get to recreational <br />marijuana one of these days, but since we're a county -run organization, I don't see the State <br />giving up the revenue from that to the counties. It's like tobacco, they kept it all up at their level <br />even though they keep asking us to do enforcement for them. But same thing, I don't think <br />they'll give up their revenue, they'll keep it up at their level. And so, we will probably resist <br />taking over any of that. <br />MINUTES - LIQUOR COMMISSION MEETING & PUBLIC HEARING - THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 2024 - HILO PAGE 18 OF 30 <br />