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—it's not by the hunting area and it's not by the road where the access is in the middle, <br /> but because there's no map that says, eh, the trail runs here—the County let 'em fence <br /> it, let 'em —they never put a public access piece in there—they never put the trail piece <br /> in there because it's an isolated piece but then down the road if you want to put public <br /> access in you no can —you can't connect the bottom to the top and so I think this person <br /> would help us overcome a lot of that—there is a model on Maui, um, they hired a <br /> cultural preservation person—so it's not a public access person— but just this lady <br /> Jeannette is her name, she's employed by the County of Maui —she maintains the <br /> database and map of cultural sites and she's responsible for when somebody turns in a <br /> development application to build—she would check her maps, check her database and <br /> see if there's a cultural site on here you guys have to ensure that there's a site <br /> preservation plan so since there is this model that I think we could follow and tune it <br /> more towards public access—you guys saw that map at the start so that would be a <br /> good place to start is developing a private database— I don't have too much trust for the <br /> County in terms of holding all that knowledge, I know that our fishers wouldn't want to <br /> be like— hey, here's all our fishing spots— but, you know, if we could tag TMKs or <br /> something like that and not for the exact trail and just like red flag it—something like <br /> that and hold a private map or private database with whoever that hui was that was up <br /> there in that district I think would be a good place to start and then what that looks like <br /> in terms of a County database whether it's just red flags or and then once they put an <br /> application in maybe the County person after that goes to that hui and says, OK, now, <br /> where's the specific trail cause we're getting specific on this one—this person is <br /> applying to build but... <br /> ?: As long the homeowner registers with them? <br /> BM: It's as long as it's a permitted thing, yeah, for sure, is that what you're saying? <br /> ?: Yeah. <br /> BM: Yeah, if it's unpermitted I don't know you gotta go old school that one, which we have, <br /> but... Shucks, usually we try to go to the homeowner first but it's like—it's running <br /> around— I feel it's like running around and just putting out fires—this person is putting <br /> up fence here, this person is fence here... Yeah, so, if we can develop these systems I <br /> think it would be a lot better and the other thing I would really like to see is a pathway <br /> for funding this kind of maintenance that we're doing, particularly in cases where the <br /> County has accepted— has totally accepted the responsibility for the maintenance of <br /> [unclear]. We have a big problem with the state, right, which is our high-water mark— <br /> they recognize the importance of fishing—they recognize the importance of shoreline <br /> fishing, they recognize the importance of subsistence fishing, but then how do you get <br /> to the shoreline?That is a right that is guaranteed to the people of Hawaii. It's in our <br /> laws, it's in our constitution, it's in our SMA laws, our County SMA laws and so it's not <br /> debatable whether that's a right, it is, and so how do we ensure that—we continue to <br /> 8 <br />