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Pg 9 Exhibit 13: Partial transcript extracted from public meeting August 24, 2023. Volcano Village Town Hall with Mayor Mitch Roth and multiple Heads of Department in County of Hawaii ) Video source: NaLeo.ty: channel: governmental 55 keyword (search: 'volcano' @ 25:04 Mayor Roth states As we're looking at our general plan where, you know, the community is kind of giving us the direction there, we hope that you come out. We hope that all of you come out to be a part of this. You know, the worst thing is if nobody comes out or very few people come out and dictates what that plan is. @ 55:42 mins members of the public discuss the term 'SMART CITY' Public Participant 1: "Aloha, my question is, what exactly is a 15-minute SMART City?And what, if anything, does that have to do with our Hawaii Island? And what does the planning department have in the... or what...? Bring us up to date on that, please." (sounds of clapping and cheering in the audience) Mayor Mitch Roth: "Actually, I'm not really sure what you're talking about... 15-minute city, he said... Hang on, Frecia, are you around? Hopefully, she didn't leave. Frecia? Frecia? Okay... Maybe "R&D" knows a little bit about this... 15- minute SMART City, do you know anything about that?" Ms. Frecia Cevallos: "I don't actually, but I can find out. I'm so sorry." Mayor Mitch Roth: "There's a conference in Maui, is what you're saying? In Maui? Okay... I know, 'you know, "SMART city." .. there's a whole bunch of stuff that they talk about there, with information and stuff like that. I can tell you, I don't know specifically about what you're talking about. We know what the SMART City is... we'll find out. We'II take a look for that, okay?" Public Participant 2: (another member of the audience was handed the mic and interjected): "The SMART Cities are where they want us contained within a 15-minute area, and you know all about it. It's all over the news, it's all over social media, it's all over everything. And also, it goes hand in hand with your sustainability plan that you started your speech off with, and it's in lockstep with the World Economic Forum and the World Health Organization. We know all about it. You should know all about it if you're our mayor." Mayor Mitch Roth: "I will take a look and see. I mean, I gotta tell you this—I'm your mayor, but I don't know everything." Although Mayor Roth and Ms. Frecia Cevallos explicitly denied familiarity with the concept of"SMART Cities," a press release issued two days later contradicted these statements. @ 55:42 mins 3rd member of public asks about potential for urban redevelopment: Hi, thank you guys so much for coming up. I have a question, or really, I think,just a concern that's probably shared by a lot of the community, and it pertains to Big Island, but I'll start with where we just saw it