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RD: Duerr, District – 1, Tarnas is chair of Judiciary, which essentially, once a bill comes <br />through – it’s gotta go through Finance and Ways and Means, Finance and Judiciary and <br />essentially… He’s house. He’s very powerful and, hunter/fisher gatherer \[unclear\] is a <br />little… <br /> <br />?: We’ve gone both ways but… <br /> <br />RD: Yeah, right. <br /> <br />BL: \[Unclear\] it’s important in the past and we’ve had him block us another… <br /> <br />RD: You’re right and with a favor – with a lot of times, you think you’re in with them and <br />then you find out that, you know, without the conversation, you’ve been axed. <br /> <br />LT: Yup. OK. Moving forward – this is Chris Todd right here, ah, we have good <br />communications with him. Abraham had a long relationship dealing with game <br />management with Chris Todd. His brother is a fire chief for Hawaii island and so when <br />we walked in the office, he had actually all the fire chiefs from around the whole state in <br />the office. They just lost one of their fire fighters so when we walked in we had the – we <br />got to greet all the fire chiefs of the – every island – that was kind of a, good <br />introduction and then got to talk to Chris Todd about a lot of our local issues especially <br />the pigs digging up everywhere during when it’s all rainy in Hilo. So, he’s gonna be <br />helping us a lot over the next couple of years while he’s in. <br /> <br /> This is Mr. Tim Richards – the cowboy, his whole family was in there. He was talking to <br />us about his plans – we were trying to share some of our ideas and our plans and our <br />mission and then he started to tell us about what he’s focusing on and I think we can <br />think of any crossroads between what we’re trying to do and what he’s trying to do then <br />he can maybe jump on board. He listened to us. So, like Abraham mentioned earlier he’s <br />kinda new – he doesn’t have too much power over everyone else – introducing things <br />out of the spectrum was, I guess, not in his mission plan. <br /> <br />RD: Chair, one touchstone for Tim Richards – is he’s really concerned about fire danger, <br />right, having seen him at another meeting it was dealing with fire issues on the west <br />side. He – it’s a real touchstone for him. It segways to palila on the mountain, yeah. <br /> <br />BL: And the Waikoloa road safety and everything else… <br /> <br />LT: Yeah, yeah. <br /> <br />BL: \[Unclear\] going on in LA, we’ve got our fair share of \[unclear\]. <br /> <br />19 <br /> <br /> <br />