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Merit Appeals Board <br />January 30, 2025 <br />MR. HONG: All right. You talked about derogatory material in my client's personnel file. <br />When was the last time you took a look at my clients personnel file? <br />MR. OKINAKA: Maybe a couple of weeks ago. <br />MR. HONG: Okay. Have there any been —have there been any performance issues regarding <br />my client? <br />MR. OKINAKA: Not to my knowledge. No. <br />MR. HONG: Any discipline against my client? <br />MR. OKINAKA: Not to my knowledge. No. <br />MR. HONG: I'm going to have to ask this question, for the record, and I apologize in advance. <br />In your opinion, is the Fire Department discriminating against Jonah because of his Caucasian <br />ancestry. <br />MR. OKINAKA: Definitely, not. <br />CHR. CABANAS: Mr. Hong, the appeal is not about discrimination. <br />MR. HONG: I understand that. Iswhether the department in the recruitment process violated <br />any laws, rules, regulations, and procedures. Discrimination is certainly an anti —one of the <br />rules, polices, and laws that they shouldn't be violating in the recruitment process. <br />And I asked the question, I made the record. I'm not going to be following -up on that. <br />CHR. CABANAS: Okay. Because just note that Mr. Kaye was selected for the WSO III. The <br />recruitment was cancelled. <br />MR. HONG: Right. <br />CHR. CABANAS: So, we need to stick to that. Okay, any more questions? <br />MR. HONG: No, I have no further questions. Thank you, Chief. <br />MR. OKINAKA: You're welcome. <br />CHR. CABANAS: Okay, Ms. Tavares, any further questions of the Assistant Fire Chief <br />Okinaka? <br />MS. TAVARES: I do have one follow-up question. <br />CHR. CABANAS: Okay, go ahead. <br />Page 25 <br />