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Veterans Advisory Committee <br />Page 3 <br />June 16, 2005 <br />maintenance. There use to be just one cemetery, but now there is Cemetery I — 3 acres, <br />Cemetery II — 14 acres and Cemetery III — 2 acres. Cemetery space has grown and <br />demands on P &R staff has grown. He also recognized the veterans in West Hawaii for <br />the great work they have done to improve and upgrade cemetery. <br />Director Engelhard said that copies of the cemetery rules are given to families, the <br />mortuaries have them and copies are posted throughout the cemeteries. She also said that <br />we need to set parameters to honor our veterans and make the cemetery look like <br />Arlington. <br />Richard Highley asked if artificial flowers could be disposed of just as fresh flowers. <br />Director Engelhard said she doesn't like artificial flowers. <br />Vice Chairman Austen said that one of the signs was rusted and could not be clearly read. <br />He suggested that we clean it or make it clearer. <br />Richard Highley said that if they can't bring artificial flowers then there should be some <br />place that the fresh flowers could be put on graves. <br />Patrick Pavao said that when these rules were established, the cost factors were discussed <br />and the committee decided to make those vases and concrete vaults optional and the <br />responsibility of the families. Things change and rules could be revised if that is the <br />desire of the committee. <br />Director Engelhard reported that the County annually receives $22,500 from the State <br />and it costs over $100,000 to maintain all three cemeteries. <br />Patrick Pavao said an option would be to have an organization provide a service by <br />purchasing vases and make it available to families for purchase. He also said that there <br />were attempts to get more funding through the legislature, but that never happened. <br />When Cemetery III first opened up, $38,000 was to be set up for maintenance of that <br />cemetery, however, the state erred by letting the funds lapse. <br />Minoru Hanato suggested to install uniform vases that are the same on each grave, are <br />level with the ground and dispose of all flowers (fresh or plastic). <br />Delbert Nishimoto said at Punchbowl they remove flowers every third day. He also said <br />if we keep changing rules and there is no enforcement, it has no value. He recommends <br />reminding fellow veterans that there are rules. Communication is the key. <br />Richard Highley received quotes on the proposed vases, prices start at approximately <br />$18.00 for zinc and ranges up to approximately $30.75 each for bronze. The price goes <br />down to $23.75 if you order in bulk of 72 at a time. <br />