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Merit Appeals Board <br />November 26, 2024 <br />The Board received a copy of the Hawaii Labor Relations Board's Declaratory Ruling and <br />Order, reference Communication number 24-03.21stating that the Board has jurisdiction to <br />hear this appeal. So, we will proceed. <br />Do the parties, at this time, have any statements or concerns in regard to the issue in this case? <br />Mr. Hong. <br />MR. HONG: No. Thank you. <br />CHR. CABANAS: Okay. Mr. Lee. <br />MR. LEE: No statements. This might be a good time to ask to exclude the witnesses before <br />testimony statement. <br />CHR. CABANAS: So noted. Mr. Lee is requesting that the witnesses not be allowed to sit in on <br />today's hearing. And so, Mr. Hong, any objections to that? <br />MR. HONG: I understand the exclusionary rule. We have no objections except, in terms of the <br />order of our witnesses, we're going to call the two Public Works witnesses firstMr. Pause and <br />then our other witness <br />CHR. CABANAS: Ms. Akamine. <br />MR. HONG: I'm sorry, Ms. Akamine, and then Lyndon Turner. <br />CHR. CABANAS: Okay. So, you're the order of the witnesses are Mr. Steve Pause, the <br />Director; followed by Ms. Darlene Akamine; followed by Mr. Lyndon Turner. Okay. <br />MR. HONG: Right. `Cause my understanding is Mr. Pause has a 10:30 that he needs —or <br />11:0011:00 that he needs to be at. <br />CHR. CABANAS: Okay, it's 10:00 now. So —okay, so you don't oppose you don't object to <br />Mr. Lee's having them sit out? <br />MR. HONG: Right. So, if Ms. Akamine, could step outside because we're going to call <br />Mr. Pause as soon as you allow us to do that. <br />CHR. CABANAS: Okay, sure. Okay. Yeah, so, Ms. Akamine, if you can just wait outside of <br />the Council Chambers, yeah. <br />So, strict rules of evidence will not apply in this hearing, however, the Board requests that all <br />parties confine themselves to the matters connected with today's hearing and the issue before the <br />Board. <br />Page 21 <br />