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Veterans Advisory Committee <br />Page 4 <br />April 17, 2008 <br />P &R will be moving the urns. She asked veterans to discuss and get back to her so she <br />can include decision in their specs. <br />Mr. Minoru Hanato asked if it would be possible to move the entire columbarium with <br />the niches in tact, otherwise in order to remove the urns from the niches we would need <br />permission from all of the families. <br />Mr. Highley said prior to implementation of the landscape improvement project, we <br />obtained permission from each family and worked around the approximately five families <br />that did not give permission. He asked if we would need to do the same to remove the <br />urns or even to move the columbarium. <br />Director Engelhard said that P &R contacted all of the family members to obtain approval <br />prior to the landscaping improvement project. <br />Mr. Highley said he doesn't think so because he spoke to one person who was not <br />contacted. Chairwoman Fox said basically P &R were the ones that contacted as many <br />people as they could get ahold of. <br />Mr. Lum and Chairwoman Fox shared a concern that the urns may topple over while <br />moving the columarium if they are left inside. <br />Director Engelhard read Project Coordinator Gina Ichiyama's email dated today: <br />"We need to input as soon as possible since the consultants are finishing the pre-final <br />submittal next week. Remember to bring up the relocation of the niches. We are <br />contemplating setting up a temporary relocation outside of the construction area first <br />where visitors can access the columbaria. The contractor can then install the new ones <br />(In other words those were temporary and they are intending for them to remain <br />temporary) and when the project is finished the urns can be moved over. They're not <br />sure of the details yet. " <br />Director Engelhard said that is the end of that information, so the question remains do the <br />West Hawaii Veterans Cemetery folks want to do it? Or do you want the P &R staff to <br />move them? What is the preference? <br />Mr. Highley shared that he didn't feel the veterans in West Hawaii would be able to take <br />on the responsibility of moving the columbarium and the remains without special <br />permission. Just moving the marker was difficult and there were people that objected to <br />that. He asked if the alternative is to leave the columbarium where it is set up. <br />Chairwoman Fox said that is not an alternative. The columbariums are temporary, they <br />are going to be removed. What they need to know is do you folks want to move the <br />remains or do you want Parks and Recreation to do it? <br />