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(unclear) you would think that (unclear) there are more hens in this area and that’s where we
<br />harvested these roosters and we would take the roosters out and put them back in there in
<br />theory a place for breeding male potential is harvested.
<br />BL: You know, the big thing with all of us is any suggestion on habitat reform, because that would go
<br />a long way towards not just the release birds, but also the (unclear) the class interval. We have
<br />some quality habitat for these. Any idea when we're going to do some habitat reform?
<br />JPC: We started mapping out areas in the Kaoi (sp) restoration area, and working with the program
<br />that's under artificial smoke management out there, South of Mauna Kea forest restoration
<br />project to map out areas using either staff mowing, either the staff regular mowing that
<br />happens areas extend that into all into the landscape to bring the grass down, create more
<br />habitat to see that big grass. It's good when it gets molded. Formally, it was great. But, you
<br />know, it's molded it promotes, some of those game birds like and it provides, from a safety side,
<br />it provides more like safe parking areas and stuff it can allow us to go and provide, once we get
<br />the pigs out, we can go and provide food plots. You know, doing like food plots and stuff, in
<br />those plant restoration areas so we can go and plant stuff over (unclear) We've been trying
<br />planting some of these mainland clover (unclear) with some of our water units (unclear) some of
<br />the stuffs that I follow like turkey (unclear)
<br />BL: Yeah, it's like I said, you know how many (unclear) and then complaining about, you know,
<br />Hawaii could be both renowned if we actually pushed our hunting and like you were saying,
<br />people bring the family, and they drop them off in Kona. They go shopping. When they go out,
<br />they would be killing all of our animals. And who could do that? Quick question on the left side
<br />note, you brought up, what was the success rate on the Mauna Kea dog hunting for pigs.
<br />JPC: Mauna Kea dog hunting for pigs, yes, so that hunt is still ongoing in the summer. For those that
<br />don't know, we put out this special hunt in Kaohe Restoration Area and Puu Mali Restoration
<br />Area opened it up for pig hunting with the use of dogs. It's ongoing. It ends the last day of
<br />February, so we got between two more weeks of that hunt. We've had good feedback from
<br />hunters, good turnout at the peak, we're getting about almost, like at one point, there was like
<br />10 pigs a week were taken out of Kaohe. We don't have a final number yet, because we're still
<br />adding those numbers. So maybe, a meeting or two from now, I can, we can share that, but it's
<br />been on going. It was well received. Some little parts about it, was like, well, this is something
<br />we'll probably do every year, at least. Next year, for sure, it was well received, and we'll change
<br />it a little bit next year. I underestimated how few people knew exactly where these two areas
<br />were. So, we had a little bit of confusion with some hunters, luckily, most of them would just call
<br />our office and navigate to get to some of these areas. But, yeah, we're probably doing the same
<br />version, but probably we're going to open up a little bit more area next year.
<br />BL: Yeah, because the downside I saw in the Kaohe is the pigs were the only thing that were rooting
<br />the grass and making trails for the game birds. And, getting in this area and wiping out all the
<br />pigs, I was just seeing a detriment to the game birds. Because, like I said, the pigs were the only
<br />thing that we're creating open ground for the birds, which, yeah, birds need open ground and
<br />trails to get through that five-foot grass, since there's no void or anything like that. On the
<br />downside, I know that some pigs predate on game bird nests and stuff like that, but, you know,
<br />it's kind of a feed off. (unclear)
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