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the nineties and anywhere from then to two thousand. Early two thousand so some of the older <br />ones are showing their age the gutters are failing a good portion still functional, tanks are full <br />water is coming out but super (unclear) but we’re trying to improve the checking range with the <br />staff out in West Hawaii, checking those water units more regularly especially coming in to the <br />bird breeding season in the spring making sure the birds can get more water. <br />We started putting out these things that they call them flock blocks they’re like a mineral block <br />for game birds. They are seeds in casing like this molasses block with calcium stuff (unclear) <br />nesting birds (unclear) production (unclear) refurbishing a lot of the water issues unclear) we <br />got some that were going to change ropes on putting in new gutters change the wood on some <br />of the older ones just the ones (unclear) like uphill on Mauna Kea aside. That one is a cool one. <br />It’s unique because it gets fed by a stream diversion. The stream diversion has been clogged <br />over the years. Improving maintenance of the ones that’s up there as well as building, filled with <br />new ones. The gaps where there aren’t on the mountain. We may build a lot in Pu’umali <br />restoration area. Their water units out there in (unclear) last year. We have three plans where <br />we started on one. We have sites for 2 others remain unbuilt sometime in March, April. So just <br />putting more water out in the landscape (unclear) game bird population management. And I ask <br />any hunters out there that - we get calls on water units that A, B and C’s (unclear) to report <br />which ones they are. Most of them have and they’re not always visible but most of them have <br />the name on the top left. One of the main (unclear) K to M1 (unclear) which one to go to so but <br />think that’s about it does anybody have questions. <br />LT: Thank you for that update, everybody excited especially for those of us that are here. Whoever <br />wants to start if you guys have questions. <br />BL: Brian, District 4. I got a bunch of questions here if we can just run through them here real quick. <br />I appreciate you coming in. I know sometimes you guys feel like you’re in the hot seat. <br />JPC: No, I enjoy the conversations. <br />BL: Any issues with the zipties? I noticed I got one bandon bird this year and I noticed you guys are <br />using zipties. Are there any issues with the zipties down the road causing problems with the <br />bird? <br />JPC: No, I don’t believe… some of the zipties we use they just look like regular zipties but we buy <br />them from (unclear) the poultry suppliers and when I started using the zipties I contacted <br />(unclear) do you guys have any issues with (unclear) they’re not using a lot of pigeons. A lot of <br />pigeon guys they use a lot of (unclear) but they use (unclear) no, never had any issues, mainly <br />like, (unclear) control things like (unclear) it is pretty standard with branding that we do <br />branding like for experience and stuff (unclear) enough gap making sure that it’s not too big <br />where you know it slides off the foot, a lot like it fold in on itself where it slides on and become a <br />problem. Not too big where it would slide off and it gets stuck further up on its leg and the <br />mobility and cutting it nice and flush and not a sharp edge. The only issue we have with the <br />zipties is more (unclear) where we’re actually losing the zipties we go and release a bunch of <br />birds, and we go to clean out our (unclear) fall off… the retention has been subpar… I mean, we <br />probably lost about four or five (unclear) was enough that where this year we’re going to <br />actually switch to. We work with this company to get a custom made aluminum bands. They’re <br />9 <br /> <br /> <br />