2025-06-26 Fire Commission Regular Minutes

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Hawaii Fire Commission Regular Session Minutes June 26, 2025 Page 7 Commissioner Cushnie agreed that requiring candidates to have experience in all three phases of the Special Operations Chief's duties would limit the pool of applicants. He asked if Training and Experience (T&E) points are awarded for relevant experience, such as time spent as a rescue captain or in aviation, so candidates receive credit for their background rather than being discounted. Deputy Chief Volpe explained that T&E points are based on the candidate's position and years served, with credit given accordingly. He emphasized that the process aims to be fair and equitable and that awarding points for specific positions was found to be unfair. Cushnie stressed the value of time and experience and noted that while some candidates may lack certain background due to timing or opportunity, it shouldn't diminish their experience. Volpe agreed but added that while prior experience is important, the role focuses on strategic leadership beyond task-level duties and candidates are not penalized for their experience or lack thereof. Commissioner Cushnie inquired about the selection process for the assessment panel. Deputy Chief Volpe indicated some details might be best discussed in executive session. DCC Salas-Ferguson advised caution to avoid disclosing sensitive information. Volpe explained that the panel typically includes evaluators at least one rank higher than the candidates (e.g., Captains evaluate FEOs, BCs evaluate Captains), and panelists are chosen based on familiarity with the specialized functions being assessed. When asked about using outside panelists from other jurisdictions, Volpe said this had been attempted in the past but was rejected by Human Resources, requiring the process to be repeated. He expressed confidence that internal panelists possess sufficient relevant experience. Commissioner Magsalin asked about grievances related to candidate selection. Deputy Chief Volpe acknowledged a few grievances in recent years, generally related to changes in criteria or instructions, but he was not directly involved. AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE NEXT MEETING No agenda items were suggested. Chair Kosaki advised that anyone wishing to submit items for a future agenda should email him at least two weeks before the meeting. He will then forward the requests to DCC Salas-Ferguson and Ms. Correa. ANNOUNCEMENTS Chair Kosaki announced the next regular meeting is scheduled for Thursday, July 24, 2025, at 9.00 a.m., at the County Building, Council Chambers, Suite 1401, 25 Aupuni Street, Hilo, HI. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 1.35 p.m.