2024-12-19 Liquor Adjudication Board Minutes Kona

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Fuke: So, if he were 21 years old and he sold it to you because that's who he had sold the alcohol to, so there would not have been a violation? Takase: Well, since she was there it wouldn't be, but even if he's 21, they need to have a manager on duty. So if she's there, yes I don't think we would have charged them, but when she's not there, just because he's 21 he could not sell without having a manager there. Crozier: Ora blue card? Takase: Well, we gave him a blue card so he's taken the test but because he's not 21 he can't really be the manager. Crozier: Right, exactly, yes. Fuke: So, those times that he sold it to you, if that person were 21 and above, it would not have been a violation, correct? Gonzalez: Only if she was on duty. Crozier: Which I'm always on duty because I'm salary, yes so technically I was the manager on duty, so even if he had sold it to me, it falls within the correct legality. If he was under and nobody was there with a PIAC (person in active charge) card, then it would be illegal. Takase: Well, so if that was the only situation where he was just selling to her, we would not have charged that, even if she's I suppose she's not technically on duty because now she's buying the liquor, but you know she's there so you know it's kind of cutting things a little thin, so we would have not charged them. Hughes: So, Gerald, under the liquor regulations, can a manager be buying liquor? Takase: No, not while they are on duty. Hughes: But she's always on duty. Takase: Well, if she's there, you know. She was there but she was going home I think, that's why she was buying liquor. Crozier: It was the end of my day. Takase: Yeah, so you know technically it would still be a violation, but I don't think that's why we charged them for that specific instance. You know, he was there at times by himself basically and I kind of understood that they had some problems with staffing, but you know we kind of warned them the first time and told them what to do to just put up a signs. If he's the only one there he can't sell, but it kind of continued and that's why we're here. So, I think what Robert said they've corrected it now, they have sufficient personnel, so hopefully it will not be a problem in the future. Fuke: So essentially then, the sale to a person in active charge is okay as long as you're taking it home, you're taking it away. MINUTES - LIQUOR ADJUDICATION BOARD MEETING - THURSDAY, DECEMBER 19, 2024 - KONA PAGE 6 OF 56