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Hawaii Fire Commission <br /> Regular Session Minutes <br /> July 24, 2025 <br /> Page 5 <br /> per employee. The data would provide the commission with an effective tool to aid in <br /> the performance evaluation of the Fire Chief. Commissioner Cushnie cited the County <br /> Charter, which allows the commission to engage consultants as necessary to perform <br /> its duties. <br /> There was discussion among commissioners, Chief Todd, and DCC Salas-Ferguson. <br /> Chief Todd raised concerns. He expressed disagreement with an anonymous process, <br /> citing concerns that it could allow for unsubstantiated or abusive comments without <br /> accountability. He also noted the legal responsibility to follow up on critical issues <br /> raised, which is complicated by anonymity. He stressed the need for safeguards to <br /> prevent individuals from submitting multiple surveys. He raised the logistical challenge <br /> of including personnel without department email addresses, such as Ocean Safety staff. <br /> He also questioned the value of feedback from employees with whom he has limited <br /> direct interaction, such as firefighters he may only see annually. Chief Todd explained <br /> concerns regarding funding and procurement, stating the commission is not a part of the <br /> department and does not have its own budget to procure such a service. He outlined <br /> potential options, such as reallocating funds from the current budget or requesting a <br /> supplemental budget from County Council. <br /> DCC Salas-Ferguson clarified that while the commission does not have a separate line- <br /> item budget, it is part of the Fire Department. He advised that the commission's first <br /> step is to vote on whether to pursue the engagement of a consultant. The subsequent <br /> steps of identifying funding and managing procurement would be handled in conjunction <br /> with the chief and the department's finance personnel. <br /> The formation of a Permitted Interaction Group (PIG) was mentioned as a possibility for <br /> commissioners to work on the details of the process outside of a formal meeting. <br /> A motion was made by Commissioner Wolf and seconded by Commissioner Hanano to <br /> pursue engagement of a survey consultant to gather upward feedback from Fire <br /> Department personnel to be used for the performance evaluation of the Fire Chief. <br /> Discussion: Commissioner Wolf asked if funding should be addressed; Chair Kosaki <br /> said it could be worked out later. Commissioner Cushnie inquired about procurement. <br /> DCC Salas-Ferguson explained that funding and procurement should be discussed with <br /> HFD finance staff and the chief. Commissioner Wolf asked about reviewing HFD's <br /> budget or requesting funding from the Mayor; DCC Salas-Ferguson said that would <br /> follow later, after consultation with the chief. There was no further discussion; the <br /> motion carried unanimously. <br /> Commissioner Perrin left the meeting at 12.08 p.m. <br /> UNFINISHED BUSINESS <br /> Commission Secretary Position: The commission reviewed and approved a draft letter <br /> addressed to the Mayor, Fire Chief, and HR Director proposing changes to the <br />