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where different situations have been brought up in court orders, into where
<br /> amendments can be made, especially when I hear certain areas only focus on birds
<br /> populated right now. Where there can be certain amendment mandates to this ariel
<br /> shooting. Why not focus on the money effort of the eradications into more into the
<br /> Palila efforts. How do you guys have that egg situation going on, how you guys going be
<br /> using more stations, maybe more efforts into the trapping. It seems to me the bigger,
<br /> what I heard, the bigger problem so far is the drought number one (1) and the
<br /> predators, that's the second. So, when I hear all that, in the public eye, the sheep are
<br /> being blamed for all this. So what I'm trying to say is that, maybe in the department, in
<br /> your folks department if there's a way, because I know there is a way...you guys can
<br /> bring this effort up with, back into the court, say like hey let me jump off for a little bit...I
<br /> actually studied environmental science forestry myself. I did work with DLNR in the past
<br /> on contract situation and visually from what I see on the mountain right... if there is ...if
<br /> those waters could be taken care of, I can guarantee you that grazing will be at a
<br /> minimum. I another problem that I have is the so call department that takes care of
<br /> land, you know last year, when they did the road maintenance, they asked us to be
<br /> there and they took out some Mamane trees, while widening the roads, and to me
<br /> when people seen that and heard, was reported back to the office, nothing was done,
<br /> why?, was it because it was the department? No! to me it's like, we're going to blame
<br /> the sheep, kill them off, right, but nothing is done to the dry ....??? [inaudible] that is
<br /> wiped out twenty feet (20") of the road, the Mamane tree that's protected... There
<br /> tends to be a lot of changes in that situation, I'm all for restoration as well, so to me it's
<br /> like, again if we are going to restore the forest, if the excavators took out a hundred
<br /> trees (100) we need to plant two hundred (200) trees, you know what I'm saying? Even
<br /> with the watershed guys, I talked to the watershed guys, you know about the fencing
<br /> going on, if they going to cut x-x-number of trees, I actually asked one guy, "Did you
<br /> guys keep one of the trees you guys cut, the answer was No,"...why is that? So, there are
<br /> a lot of different efforts that need to be changed as well, including the eradication. I
<br /> just wanted to point out the situation.
<br /> BM: Yeah, definitely appreciate all those points, and you know I think, there is definitely
<br /> room for change you know, it's just trying to navigate the legal process to implement it.
<br /> One of the other things is that I really want to highlight that you know those are the
<br /> animals' quarterly eradications have removed, but hunters by far have removed more
<br /> animals than the quarterly eradication, so we really value your folk's input and
<br /> contribution to Mauna Kea as well. So, I guess that road widening you are speaking of is
<br /> actually some of the fire prevention measures that we've been putting in and that what
<br /> is the fire break expansion so all of that expansion off of the road, is not necessarily to
<br /> expand the road, but expand the fire break. While it really is unfortunate loose some of
<br /> those trees, we kind of.... the rationale behind that effort, if we could expand those fire
<br /> breaks, if there is ever a big fire in the area, hopefully the fire break can stop it, and we
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