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Fuke: Yes, very good. I just have another comment, I mean like I was reading the <br />investigators report, and it said like when the investigator went in, he didn't smell any alcohol <br />there. <br />O'Shaughnessy: On anybody. <br />Fuke: So, to me it's like oh okay, maybe it was a visual thing that you just you know made the <br />inference, because oh there must have been a violation. So, I think to some extent there may <br />have been like a self -reporting, so to that extent I give you credit to that, so. <br />O'Shaughnessy: Thank you. <br />Arvidson: That was definitely me, you know she definitely took her shot behind the bar, and <br />wanted to own up to that because taking accountability for our actions, or lack of being able <br />to step in before it happened, that's the thing for us too. I mean, we live with integrity and we <br />don't want to pretend like it didn't happen, but at the same time we also feel like it was kind of <br />an off situation, something that hasn't happened before and won't happen again. <br />Fuke: Thank you very much. Do you have anything more you want to add, then? <br />O'Shaughnessy: I don't think so. <br />Fuke: Okay. <br />Davenport: I have a question, is Inspector Ikeda here? <br />Gonzalez: No. <br />Davenport: No, because it seems like reading through this report, it's almost the opposite of <br />his report. He says that he was, you know outside, he was looking in, he wasn't peeking in. <br />And then, when he had initially started to go into the restaurant, I think you, I'm not sure <br />which <br />O'Shaughnessy: Soren. <br />Arvidson: I was there. <br />Davenport: I think you recognized him and it kind of indicates that you were maybe a little <br />worried, and so you got up and you met him, you went back and you met him at the door. <br />Arvidson: Right. So, we were locked up, it was closed, so the only way that he could get in <br />was if I went to the door and opened it for him. <br />Davenport: So, what time did you close that evening, like officially closed? <br />Arvidson: We close at 9:00 p.m. on Fridays, Saturdays, and at 8:00 p.m. every other day. <br />Davenport: Okay. <br />Arvidson: Yeah. <br />MINUTES - LIQUOR ADJUDICATION BOARD MEETING - THURSDAY, DECEMBER 4, 2025 - HILO PAGE 11 OF 29 <br />