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that has lost a band. How can we tell if it's a released bird or a wild bird. For pheasants,
<br /> especially,we use in...when they're in captivity. We put on this thing called,we call it a
<br /> peeper,or a blinder... It's this thing we put on the bird's face to keep it from pecking each
<br /> other,to limit their predatory nature. Theyjust peck each other.They're not nice to each
<br /> other so we put them on.There's a pin that goes through their nose, and so if it's a reared
<br /> bird that has lost its band,we just look, if you can see through its two nostrils,that was a
<br /> bird that we had raised. So,that's one pretty foolproof way with the roosters to tell.Whether
<br /> it was released or not. The bird flu, I only knowwhatwe get in the news and stuff.We
<br /> haven't heard much. I mean,we're just kind of aware and keeping an eye out. 1 knowthere
<br /> was a case recently on Oahu, a native wetland bird.We've been,within our department
<br /> across the state, people have been getting trained on how to handle birds that could
<br /> potentially have highly pathogenic avian influenza, sanitation, proper protocols, PPE, stuff
<br /> like that. So, people trained on each island to handle it, and it's a joint effort between DLNR
<br /> and Department of Health, maybe Department of Ag, different animal people involved with
<br /> dealingwith these animals and animal diseases. Did I miss anything?
<br /> LT: Leomana -Nope that was it.
<br /> BL: Brian District for... since we brought up the trap.
<br /> JC: Traps,yeah, sorry, I missed the traps.
<br /> BL: Well, my question is, I noticed that the live traps are still there. How often do they check
<br /> those in case there is a cat in there? How often do they check the live traps?
<br /> JC: I imagine they would check them, I mean, if it's anything like our program,we check them
<br /> every day, every other day.That program that's doing the live trapping on Mauna Kea, they
<br /> work Monday through Thursday, so I imagine they're checking them ...every other day at the
<br /> minimum.And they're live trapping, as you can imagine, because, Hunting, right?You don't
<br /> want any, kill traps.And the live traps do offer an increased level of success. I don't know,
<br /> and cats are more likely to go into a live trap than a dark box. But so,the live traps can be
<br /> very handy, but they are more time consuming, because you gotta check them often. But
<br /> yeah,sorry, Leomana you're questioning about the traps. We are using some of the traps
<br /> you saw when you guys went out with NARS would be some of the body grip traps,AT220s,
<br /> those automated traps,we use those.Yeah,we all kind of use a mix of the same things.We
<br /> don't in our trapping at Kapapala,we don't do the footplate: style trigger that Mauna Kea
<br /> does,on Mauna Kea, because,we're trapping in the ranch, so... and the ranch has,their
<br /> ranch dogs,so our traps are,we make them dog-proof, so they're not a walk-in style trap like
<br /> Mauna Kea's.
<br /> TC: Taysen here, but I have one more question,Josh. Oh,what is that rabies called again?
<br /> Pseudo. Pseudo rabies,yeah? Does it affect game animals, including the birds.
<br /> JC: I don't think so. I mean, even the pigs have it, and they survive. But it's so it gets unlimited
<br /> knowledge of it once it gets transferred to...The dog... or humans,you know, humans can get
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