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birds, but, hard to pin down, but,good birds,you know, nice,good, plenty of black Franklins <br /> and stuff out there.We're hoping that PTA... I don't know if PTA has opened yet this bird <br /> season. Hopefully theywill open,too.That's kind of it so far, a quick update on Game Bird <br /> season.Anybody have any questions. <br /> LT: 0kay...Mahalo <br /> BL: Brian Ley District 4, 1 hate to argue with you, but I don't see what you're talking about. I've <br /> been hunting Mauna Kea for 15 years, and we've got deserts where it used to be just birds <br /> galore. I went out Sunday;we only saw 21 birds.Ten,twelve years ago, before October, I <br /> would go out for half a day and put up a hundred and something birds. I see no turkeys, I see <br /> no quail, I see no chucker.These areas that used to be highly productive, is nothing, and I <br /> think a lot of that is... did anybody ever do an EA on those new fencing you put in? Because I <br /> noticed when you guys put that new fencing with the smaller mesh. The bird hunting is <br /> just...non-existent. I hunted, off R1 by the... started at the waterer, right past R10, and <br /> worked toward the eucalyptus trees.and just put up two birds.And I mean,two Urkel, and <br /> that was it. I mean,five, six years ago. I would go down there,there would be turkeys and <br /> pheasant, and chucker left and right, and if I went by myself, I would have a limit by 8 <br /> o'clock, and I'm not even seeing these birds.And, up above R1 by that little valley by, I call it, <br /> Parker Ranch House. It's on the Parker side.That little valley in there used to be loaded <br /> with...with birds, and I've hunted it twice now, and can't even put up one bird. So, I don't <br /> know if there's any correlation, but I see these fences going up, and the birds can't get <br /> through them.So, I don't know if they fly over and don't come back, or what the deal is. 1, <br /> you know, like I keep saying,you know, it's habitat.There's no reason we don't have the <br /> massive amount of chucker's, because there's really no predators. I've seen 5 cat tracks this <br /> season, and there is no excuse for there not being the birds that there were 8, 10 years ago, I <br /> don't know.That's my two cents worth for somebody who's been up there every season for <br /> 15 years, so that's all I gotta say.Thank you. <br /> JC: Joshua Pang-Ching here, DLNR.Yeah,there's no hiding that it's different now, and I'm not <br /> comparing this year to how it was 20 years ago. I mean, everything across the board, and <br /> even on private land,you talk to people, like my boss has. He has contacts with Palani <br /> Ranch, and he said, a place like Palani Ranch that doesn't get hunted by the public, in any <br /> degree,they probably have some in-house hunt... bird hunting, I would imagine, but they've <br /> seen population decreases. Even Parker Ranch,you talk to guys that go Parker Ranch, <br /> they've seen populations decrease. On a ranch that gets stocked and guys payto hunt. <br /> There's literally only 20-something, 21 members, 22 members, in the park around Hui, and <br /> they've seen loss of chucker's on their side, loss of quails for a place that is actively grazed. <br /> They must release pheasants every year to keep up with the demand from the HUI,weather, <br /> and its things. It could be things that are out of our control, right?Collective drought across <br /> the island.We see that in evidence of increasing fire risk, and,without even getting on the <br /> subject of fuel load, butjust increasing drought,and you see that in a lot of places on the <br /> mountain.And so, but to your first point,the question, Brian,with the fence, I don't think... 1 <br /> 8 <br />