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Andrew, I like the data -driven and measurable outcomes that you talked about, I'm a <br />teacher by practice so I like to rely on data and measurable outcomes, I appreciate that <br />very much. Stacie, I am very impressed with the knowledge that you have, the practical <br />ideas and applications that you want to bring forth, and I feel that it was very apparent in <br />the testimonies that were provided. You have already established a very positive <br />working relationship with everyone that you will be working with. <br />Steve, there's just a wealth of experience that you bring to the Department. I did <br />appreciate the fact that when you said the letters of recommendation that you had were <br />not solicited but were offered to you, that is very impressionable you know, what you <br />brought to table. In my review of everything that I've listened to, my support would <br />be to choose Stacie as the next Director as I feel that she would bring the best of <br />everything to continue the legacy that the Department has established and wants <br />to continue to grow in a very positive manner. <br />Greenwell: It was obvious to me that both inspectors know their job, both inspectors <br />seem to be very enthusiastic about the law enforcement and what can be done to <br />support education for outreach programs, going to the community, going back to the <br />distributors and so forth. Andrew seems to have a good grasp on what an inspector <br />or an individual needed to do. Stacie had a good grasp on the licensing, she excelled <br />on licensing because that is where her training has probably been more so than in the <br />inspection category. <br />Stephen with his expertise, experience and 21 years on the job, he seemed to <br />understand very much of how the intricacies of public relations work at the counter, <br />at the bar, at the licensee's place of business. Thank you all for applying, with that I'm <br />supporting Stacie. <br />Taniguchi: It was very difficult because as you know, this is a new process. I've <br />been interviewing people for decades and personally I don't like the idea of giving out <br />questions before the interview. You know, I just don't like it, I think it's wrong. We were <br />advised that you know, we had to conform to certain things and even in open session, <br />think we should be interviewing everybody privately, I wouldn't want to be interviewed <br />publicly. <br />So, based on that, everybody had the questions, so obviously, how do we evaluate it? <br />Very difficult because you know, I mean everybody has qualifications, I mean you know <br />you all have the minimum qualifications. So, basically what I had to do was I had to <br />go based on how the applicant responded to all the questions which you already had <br />ahead of time anyway. And was it natural, was it articulated clearly? I think everybody <br />had good points, but I think the overall articulation of the answers for me was Stacie. <br />She did a good job on that, everybody did a good job, but I think Stacie was the most <br />natural and everything came out really, really clearly, and succinctly. And you know, the <br />new ideas as well as things to continue Gerald's legacy as well, I think made me sway <br />towards Stacie as well, but I wanted to thank all three of you for applying. <br />Nakashima: Nakashima, no comments. <br />MINUTES - LIQUOR COMMISSION MEETING SPECIAL MEETING - MONDAY, DECEMBER 15, 2025 - HILO PAGE 32 OF 35 <br />