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Ventura: So, if they had a permanent license, would they still have to keep applying for <br />these game permits? <br />Waltjen: Yes. <br />Ventura: I see. <br />Nakashima: What's a game permit? <br />Waltjen: They have like bingo, or they sometimes they have like poker that resemble <br />gambling, so anytime they have that they have to submit regardless if they have a <br />temporary license or a permanent license. Okay, so we did issue them a temporary <br />where they paid their fee for the license year instead of coming back to get a special <br />license, which I think they were doing before, right? As a non-profit, they were doing <br />that. We were working with them to get their temporary license in place so they didn't <br />have to keep coming back for that, while they actively work to get their inspections <br />done. So, there's that but they still would have to submit these game permits because <br />they do have events there that mimic gambling like bingo. <br />Greenwell: Stacie, could there be another category added to include gaming licenses <br />if you have a permanent license, or is there something else that can be done versus, <br />mean this just takes time to address. <br />Waltjen: Personally, I don't think so I think because it mimics gambling, maybe that's <br />their way of keeping things in control so everyone is aware that you know, so we know. <br />So, every time they have a game permit, we put it on top of their events folder so our <br />investigators know, okay they're going to have an event that has bingo there, or has <br />poker there. So, they will go and do their checks to make sure that the licensee is <br />compliant with whatever they should be compliant with having these type of events. <br />So, I guess this is kind of like our check and balance to make sure nothing is going <br />wrong. <br />Morifuji: And, in my opinion the Department is following the law, they're issuing a <br />temporary license not to hold back the business, but the temporary licensee is having <br />that option to apply for a game permit. So, they want to apply for a game permit, so like <br />Stacie said, all the licensees if they have any games resemble gambling and you do not <br />submit a game permit and it's not approved, that is a violation of the liquor law. So, the <br />Department is following the law and trying to provide and help the businesses succeed <br />or survive. Isn't this building new, maybe like the past 3 — 4 years? <br />Waltjen: No, I think it's been there for a while, my understanding. <br />Taniguchi: But this is like the Elks Club, right? So, they not open to the public for <br />whatever, just members, right? <br />Waltjen: They do have events there that I think they do have members and that's why <br />even more so, they came in for a restaurant license versus a club license. <br />MINUTES -LIQUOR COMMISSION MEETING - THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 2026 - KONA PAGE 23 OF 29 <br />