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2026-01-09 Transcript VICENTE (PL-INT-2025-011330)_draft
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The lands in question today is crown lands. These lands were leased out under King Kalakaua for <br /> thirty years,from 1890 to 1920 to Waiakea Sugar Company. In 1917,the Waiakea Sugar Company <br /> sold the lands as homestead. They had no authority because the leases were under common law <br /> under the 1840 constitution for the Hawaiian Kingdom. So, under common law it's very strict. <br /> They are only leasing the lands like everybody else's, over 2.2 million acres of crown and <br /> government lands was leased out for thirty years. Not to mention there was the Kuleana lands for <br /> ninety-nine years, which ended in the 1980s somewhere. So those lands are still in effect. You got <br /> some problems with those Kuleana lands too. <br /> So, the plantations were leasing the lands for—to plant sugar cane. That was all part of their <br /> scheme behind the colonization program, which started out under President Monroe 1820, when <br /> he sent over the missionary families to colonize his kingdom under the U.S. Constitution. It was <br /> the program was under the Northwest Ordinance of July seven—July 1787. That is a pre- <br /> constitutional. Constitution was adopted September 17, 1787. So, in the U.S. Constitution, <br /> Northwest Ordinance became article four, section three, clause one and two. And if you read article <br /> two, it says past tense one territory, Northwest Ordinance of Ohio River Valley Indian Reserve <br /> and other Indian lands that was stolen prior to September 17, 1787. There was no amendment to <br /> the Northwest Ordinance, no amendment to the U.S. Constitution to add any new lands, whether <br /> it be the Louisiana Purchase, purchase of California or taking over other lands, Philippines, Guam, <br /> Cuba, Virgin Isles. <br /> So, you can see the—the U.S. is doing things not under the U.S. Constitution. So, it raises <br /> constitutional questions, one Hawaiian Kingdom constitutional questions, the limits of the U.S. <br /> Constitution and the limits of the Northwest Ordinance, which has a history going back to the <br /> Revolutionary War and the Continental Congress. <br /> So, there's a lot of issues that this Board can address. Even the State Sup—State courts being that <br /> the State is covered under the Northwest Ordinance, they're illegitimate. The courts become <br /> illegitimate. They cannot answer all those questions. They cannot get into um, U.S. Supreme Court <br /> cannot even get into um because the U.S. Supreme Court is limited by the Constitution. They <br /> cannot go into the Declaration of Independence. They cannot go into the Northwest Ordinance, <br /> the Articles of Confederation. They only can deal with rules and regulation. <br /> WAN: One minute remaining. <br /> VICENTE: So,there's alot of constitutional questions that still out there. There's even the Queen's <br /> protest of January 17, 1893, against U.S. Minister Stevens. That has yet to go to the U.S. Supreme <br /> Court. Article three, section two, clause two. So, there's a lot of constitutional issues that—divided <br /> by jurisdiction or limited by jurisdiction. So that's very problematic, but we're here in the <br /> Hawaiian Kingdom. So, it's Hawaiian Kingdom jurisdiction that counts. The only other part is the <br /> U.S. gotta restrain itself by its own constitution, whether it be President Monroe or the missionary <br /> families or any other foreign nationals that aided the U.S. in colonization of this kingdom. And <br /> there's many. It's not only the Hawai—the—missionary families. The Japanese got involved—in <br /> 1893 by in agreement. <br /> Draft Transcript for Vicente (PL-INT-2025-011330) <br /> BOARD OF APPEALS <br /> January 9, 2026 <br /> Page 2 <br />
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