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NA In general,from what we found in the surrounding previous fence units, it's generally <br /> been about one pig per 10 acres. That's kind of if you were to take a snapshot but <br /> depends on how long the removal process goes.The longer it goes the more pigs we <br /> end up removingjust because they continue to breed while the removal is ongoing <br /> so the quicker,we do it the less pigs are removed, in general. <br /> RD If there's a few pigs that are left over,will you use snares to get the last remnants? <br /> NA That is the last resort.To give you guys an example we have a different fence unit <br /> that's lower down in the natural area reserve We're kind of on year S right now and <br /> we've avoided using. The snares on that because it is more of a front country <br /> project.And it has taken us a lot longer, but the agreements that we've made we've <br /> stuck by those and so we're still at it. Would we, have we,can we get it cleaner <br /> quicker.There's a high likelihood in my opinion but like I said,we stuck to the <br /> agreement, and we have yet to put snares in. So,we will try and to answer your <br /> question more directly,we will try every available method. Prior to doing that. <br /> RD Duerr, District 1. In setting a snare line,there's been a hunter reports that they're not <br /> monitored. In the event of using a snare which is highly effective in what you want <br /> to...does NARS followthe trapping association guidelines of monitoring a trap line so <br /> that animals in a snare are dealt with effectively and humanely. <br /> NA DLNR has an ungulate control policy that we are administered by. But we've kind of <br /> taken it a step further. Each snare is tracked and given its own identifying number, <br /> and it's given its own coordinates. And so,we have a database that has basically <br /> every snare. If it's in use. That's documented and can check the status on it each <br /> time it's checked and check lost,damaged, not found whatever the case may be. <br /> There are different categories and it is tracked. <br /> RD Thankyou. <br /> TWC Taysen Chong Wong. Ian, please talk about the roads that we had previously spoken <br /> about so the other commissioners hear even if it is not in stone. Just a quick <br /> preview. <br /> IC (Ian Cole)So, in the process of talking about building this fence unit on the back of <br /> that portion of Waiakea Forest Reserve. We are proposing to build a road up from <br /> Tree Planter on the 42 slash 84 flow the 2 flows kind of overlap each other. And then <br /> providing pull-outs along the way up.So,you'd be on the raw lava. Sorry, I don't <br /> have a map. Raw lava there on the 42 84 flows. Mostly 42 flows,which is a pretty <br /> unvegetated flow.And then we just make pullouts along the way going up. <br /> I think we have thrown out some ideas of how far apart, but in my opinion, is more <br /> the merrier,so people can find places to get into that. Backside of that forest that <br /> has previously been relatively inaccessible to the hunting community except for Tree <br /> 7 <br />