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already a consolidation that takes place in that kind of environment. So as we are broken <br />out into different departments, we've also broken out the enforcement responsibilities, <br />whereas when you look at other counties on the mainland, they may have a lot of those <br />responsibilities already under one department. <br />WONG: Within this concept, would that require a different kind of IT software so that <br />you can link to all these departments, or it's a matter of paperwork? <br />LEONARD: Well, currently the enforcement process is all manual, and we do draw upon <br />Real Property Tax, the GIS system, and the data base that's over in the Building <br />Department. So before we go out as a zoning inspector, we find out what's on the <br />property, is it properly permitted, what's the information from Real Property Tax? And <br />then we go into our own land use files and look at the information that we have. And <br />then we go out and inspect and then we can make a determination whether or not they're <br />in violation of the Zoning Code. And if there's other issues taxes, environmental issues <br />and such then we just simply identify that and then forward that onto the appropriate <br />department. Whether they follow upon it, we have no idea. With respect to IT, as I just <br />mentioned, this is something that is strictly manual. Three years ago, I wrote a software <br />solution to totally automate that process. So for me there are four zoning inspectors for <br />the island I do my work in a dual mode. I manually do everything that the county has <br />set up over the years, but I also have a computerized program that does it all <br />automatically. And so what would be best in the future is to move to a software solution <br />that totally automates the process, because then trackability - -it gives the community <br />opportunity to come on and like you setup a kiosk or internet site where people can find <br />out, hey, I just issued a complaint, I want to know whether or not - -what you're doing with <br />it. There would be some limited information on the internet for them to be able to go to <br />and take a look at. Or, as most generally what happens now, people call me and I just <br />open up the program and I can tell exactly where I'm at with it, and they're generally <br />happy, knowing that at least something's being done. So that's something that needs to <br />be looked at in the future. Exactly how do we want to go to —what what sort of software <br />solution do we want? One of the recommendations that I made in the past was that we <br />also need to look at our processes. For instance, I go and I find a violation. I come <br />back. I write a notice of violation and order. That letter gets through the process, signed <br />out by the director, goes to the individual. Most people, when they see a certified, <br />restricted mail waiting for them from the County of Hawai `i, they don't pick it up. So <br />then that comes back to me. Then I write another notice of violation and order, and that <br />one is now civil deputy serviced to them, and either posted or they actually get it and <br />typically people that ignored the first one will ignore the second one. Then the third <br />thing that I do, after another 30 days, is send out a daily fines letter. And that just goes <br />to a regular mail box, and they suddenly see they owe thousands of dollars and they <br />typically will call me and start talking tome. Now contrast that with the idea that if I was <br />an inspector that had an automated system, that I went out there and I did the inspection. <br />And I had some sort of device, like a PDA, that generated the tickets, if you want to call it <br />that -- notice of violation and order. And I said well, they're in violation. They've got <br />roosters in a residential area. And it prints out, cites the code, and I hand it to the person <br />right there. Notice of violation and order is delivered on the spot. The person I got <br />pictures of the chicken on the ticket, and so they know they've got to do something about <br />it, and it says in 30 days. So already you're trimming down the process from 60, 90 days <br />E <br />