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Council , get the property in x place. I mean, if he had <br />said that, "Let's get the property in Captain Cook." Maybe, there's <br />a violation. But I haven't seen anything written or discussed, that <br />says that that's what he said. You know, "Let's get this particular <br />land site for the new Police Station and Fire Station complex." <br />There's nothing like that, okay. He talks , yet he talks <br />about training, but is it Manago's fault that they need... you know, <br />somebody , but, training, that's separate. You have to <br />decide on what kind of issues. We're here to decide whether there <br />is an ethical violation of 2 -83. That's all we're are here to decide. <br />Whether there's a conflict of interest and before I really start on that <br />issue, I want to comment on Exhibit 5 that was sent by Mr. deSilva. <br />What Corporation Counsel Ashida was talking about, if you look at <br />sentence number two, if a commissioner goes to the Council, so <br />then he's there, there's if he and makes <br />recommendations, that may create conflict. Now, the conflict that <br />he refers to is that, which may not with the Mayor's <br />budget... oh, you don't have the response. <br />RW: Yeah. Don't know... <br />Kamelamela: If Mr. Manago had stated something that was different from what he <br />says to the Mayor, that is a potential conflict. That is what the <br />reference is being made to. The reference is not saying that, "Hey, <br />commissioner, you cannot talk to the County Council." That issue <br />hasn't been made or really yet. But, I guess this is the <br />not body to litigate decide it. We focus on what this particular <br />complaint is about. What is this complaint about? You know, I'll <br />really be honest... I don't know what this is about. Although he said <br />that certain things happened on a certain date, January and March. <br />He's claiming that in some fashion, my client, Mr. Manago, had <br />influenced people to get up and make a cut. Now, I haven't seen <br />anything, so far, to indicate to me that 1) that he even owns the <br />property... if he owns the property, I can see that there's a problem. <br />2) Anything in writing or other testimony where maybe he indicated, <br />"Hey, I would rather this perfect site in Captain Cook." Because it's <br />going to be closer. What about things like that? To me, that would <br />be a clear violation of section 2 -83. All I have is deSilva <br />alleges that Manago could possibly reap the benefits <br />that anybody else would get, okay? It's not like people can't get <br />better response time. I think because it's moving away from Mr. <br />Manago's place, the response time will be increased. `Cause right <br />now, there's a police station next to him... it's just a stone's throw <br />away from him. But they're moving the location to another area to <br />better serve the community. There's nothing wrong with that. All <br />know is that deSilva talked about Nixon, but you know, Nixon did <br />17 <br />