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CHAIR: BJ.
<br />KK: Is it okay for me to, you know, and I will try my best—on these cases
<br />where a conflict may seem to arise, I'll try to explain my background
<br />first, but I tried to vote as fairly as I could, and deliberate as fairly as I
<br />could—but—do you see any conflict, Ms. Leithead?
<br />BJLT: No, I don't, and we, in our discussions, discussed that where there was a
<br />potential for conflict, that we would not participate. In other words, if
<br />there was—that's why we're not going to be involved in direct legal
<br />representation of a client, so to speak. We're not going to go to court
<br />for somebody, because of that potential that perhaps that could grow
<br />into a conflict. So the kinds of things that we're talking about or doing
<br />is the free legal clinics, where we're giving general information, like
<br />you have a question about landlord- tenant codes, so we give you general
<br />information, but we're not going to represent you as a client.
<br />KK: No, that's not what I meant. What I meant was, being that I am
<br />familiar
<br />BJLT: - -Oh, with us, no
<br />KK: - -you know, would that influence , because I know
<br />BJLT: - -not unless you're financially involved with us
<br />KK: -- case in point, one of my first cases when I was on the Board of Ethics
<br />about three, four, three years ago, four years ago, the people who were
<br />testifying, and Corporation Counsel, and everything were all my former
<br />students, and I made it known to the client the situation, and he said
<br />well, no problem, as long as you can render a fair judgment, and the
<br />judgment went against the person. He wrote a letter to us saying, I want
<br />Kawahara off the Board. He wanted a hearing again, with me off the
<br />thing.
<br />ASHIDA: Mr. Kawahara, if I may, that's probably a question you should direct to
<br />Mr. Kim. My thinking on it is, you're not being called upon to assess
<br />our credibility in any way. What is, is, and you know, I don't think my
<br />credibility, BJ's credibility, or Ivan's— always Takase's, though. Skip
<br />But I don't think that really matters, because, again, you're
<br />not being called upon to judge either our character or our credibility, or
<br />what have you, but I think maybe that question should be directed to
<br />Mr. Kim.
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