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CHAIR: The last time we had an issue, because one time you were using a <br />County van, right, to go to Pahala and so forth, so it'sat what point <br />does the County Council aide job stop and at what point does your <br />private contract, you know, moonlighting begin, as it were, and what <br />use of government facilities is involved in that. Now, you mentioned <br />that Dixie, or who exercises supervision over you, other than Bob <br />Jacobson? <br />LIVELY: For the Resource Center it's Jane Testa, she's <br />CHAIR: - -at R and D. But your full-time job is as an aide to Bob Jacobson, so <br />who isis there an office manager there? <br />LIVELY: Yes, there is. The office manager is Alfred Robello, and the Chair, the <br />Council Chair, from my understanding, is the kind of over all boss of all <br />of us, and of course now that's Stacey Higa, and I do actually provide <br />facilitation for some members in his district outside of my Council <br />position as a resource facilitator. <br />CHAIR: So when the van news came up, there was someone else, was it —who is <br />the <br />LIVELY: - -okay, the situation with the van was that there was a Planning <br />Commission meeting that Bob was unable to attend and he sent me to, <br />and that was in Pahala. After that Pahala meeting, I had a community <br />facilitation Job <br />CHAIR: -- coincidentally— <br />LIVELY: - -later that night, right, for —that I attended for Gary Safarik. But, I <br />would also, originally was mandated to go for my Resource Center <br />obligations, or whatever happens. So the first meeting, which I did use <br />the County van, I attended for the County Council. The second was <br />actually for the Resource Center job, but there was no way for me to get <br />the van back here and then get my private car, and then so I ended up in <br />which I had planned to take the County vehicle home for the evening <br />and bring it back the next morning, anyway. <br />CHAIR: I presume you did not file for mileage from that. <br />LIVELY: No, no. <br />KK: You know, I'm reading in the transcripts —you are what in relation to <br />Bob Jacobson? <br />24 <br />