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CHAIR: Let's look at engineering, so you're basically engineering, working in <br />the engineering division of the Department of Public Works, not traffic <br />engineering? <br />THIEL: Yeah, yeah, I'm not working in the traffic portion, although <br />that position is up for applications at this point in time. My application <br />is in. But this type of work that I am doing is all outside, out of state, <br />off - island, and I seek to confirm that no provision with the County Code <br />is in question, of the Code of Ethics, is in question. <br />CHAIR: So the issue is, at this point —I'll interrupt for a moment, to welcome <br />our newest member, Mr. Karl Kawahara. Pull up a chair to the Board of <br />Ethics. Welcome, Karl, you're just in time. <br />KK: Sorry I'm late, I got hung up at another meeting. <br />CHAIR: Well, we're happy to have you, late or not. What we're hearing right <br />now is Mr. Ron Thiel. We've filed the old minutes and the Executive <br />Session minutes, and we've jumped to Item 6, New Business, and we're <br />right on Petition 2005 -02 right now. So, Karl, have you also had a <br />chance to read the minutes <br />KK: Yeah. I think you were just answering a question I had on —was he <br />using —does he use County time, equipment, to carry out this business? <br />THIEL: No, I certainly <br />KK: -- extra - curricular activities. As a former teacher, they're known as <br />extra - curricular functions. <br />THIEL: No, I am not. <br />KK: All right, <br />CHAIR: Do other members of the Board have any comments or questions of Mr. <br />Thiel? <br />KI: I have a question. You mentioned that at the present time the County is <br />seeking a traffic engineer and that you have applied for that position. <br />THIEL: Yes, that is correct. <br />KI: Okay. If you were to get that position, would you continue to be doing <br />these other works off - island? <br />M <br />