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There's nothing out there that says government attorneys are exempt. <br />We don't believe we're exempt, and you know what, we don't want to <br />be exempt, because this is our community, we live in it, we care about <br />the people who live in this community. We understand the ethical <br />limitations that yes, we cannot form attorney -client relationships with <br />clients. We're not going to do that; we don't intend to do that. But <br />what can we do? There's an out, you know, for government attorneys. <br />Ron Ibarra, a judge —our Circuit Court judge in Kona, came to Hilo and <br />told us this. He said, well, you know, but you government attorneys out <br />there, you don't want to do it, or whatever, you can just contribute "x" <br />number of dollars, write a check, donate it to Legal Aid. No, he said <br />that, and you can do that. And you know what, all of us, all thirteen of <br />us, we could choose to do that, but what we've chosen is to do <br />something different. We've chosen to really have, you know—to <br />interpret those words in Rule 7 to have some meaning. So we want to <br />be out there in the community and do our part. So what we've done is <br />we've built a relationship with Volunteer Legal Services Hawaii. It's <br />a —Bobby Jean, it's a private non-profit- <br />BJLT: Yup <br />ASHIDA: - -I don't even know if it's private non -profit or annexed to the Judiciary. <br />BJLT: I think it's private non - profit. Otherwise, we wouldn't be able to deduct <br />our donations to it. <br />ASHIDA: Okay. <br />CHAIR: Not Legal Aid, this is not Legal Aid? <br />BJLT: This is Volunteer Legal Services Hawaii. It's similar. <br />ASHIDA: But they're going to —they have already sponsored volunteer legal <br />clinics on the Big Island. We've —and I made this voluntary for the <br />attorneys in our office because, you know, it wasn't my place to <br />mandate that they do it. But you know, all of them stepped forward and <br />said yeah, we want to be a part of this, so we're going to be participating <br />in this, providing our time and expertise to help those in the community <br />who are not as fortunate and can't afford legal services. Now, this is in <br />addition, now, to the fact that Bobby Jean Leithead -Todd is president of <br />the Hilo High School PTA, or that I'm involved with the—in the <br />Kalanianaole School Foundation, or that Amy Self is involved with <br />thea board member with the YWCA. That's all in addition to that. <br />This is something separate. Now comes the question —now there will <br />