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CHAIR: Counsel, help me out. Do we need to really rule on these things? Are we <br />really the for this <br />WJ: I have the lobbyist form in front of me. I'd like to know exactly what <br />FUKE: It just says over here, like entertainment and food and beverage, for example. <br />WJ: But if you go to the last page, I think the last page clarifies the specifics of <br />everything. <br />FUKE: It says here expenditures incurred in the total sum of $25 or more per person <br />per day , so my question is, if your lunch is $30 and his share <br />was $15, or whatever, does that get reported, although the cumulative amount <br />is $25? But by reading this, it would seem to be no, because you spent only <br />$15. <br />WJ: I tend to say no. I would agree with your <br />CHAIR: Pat, can you help us on this? Actually, who is the keeper of this form, and who <br />is the evaluator of this form? The County Clerk, is it not? <br />PKO: It's filed with the Clerk, but it's a condition of the Ethics Code, and I think it's <br />appropriate for him to ask you and they can change the form. <br />CHAIR: I take a very broad reading myself. I think we're all pretty level about that. <br />FUKE: And the last question I have is related to our bread and butter, which is like the <br />fees and allowances. And that's like underI can't find the page where it <br />talks about how do you report—it says list all contributions received by you for <br />the purpose of lobbying in the total sum of $25 per Do I need <br />to disclose what is my compensation from the ? <br />CHAIR: Well, I would say , and your remuneration is $5,000, you <br />know, payment, then basically that would be—you're a lobbyist—be a <br />lobbyist —and a planning consultant's fee but it would not be a <br />. The only reason you're getting a <br />payment in the first place is to accomplish rezoning <br />FUKE: It's really —I'll give you a specific situation on the change of zone. A <br />traditional lobbyist would not do anything apart from just lobby. <br />CHAIR: Right. <br />FUKE: What I would have to do is, I'd have to prepare the and to the <br />environmental report and all that stuff, and my fees are all kind of wrapped up <br />in it. So, I don't have like a separate fee forI mean, if you do it by the <br />hourly basis then I think you can just kind of make your separation, but for the <br />16 <br />