2005-11-09 Board of Ethics Minutes Regular mc

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own time. Because that's his regular job, to come over there and train people anyway. CHAIR: What is your job as a laborer —what do you do as a laborer? GANIGAN: Maintain highways. CHAIR: You're part of the road crew? GANIGAN: Yeah. CHAIR: The shovel guy kind of thing- GANIGAN: - -yeah CHAIR: -- you're doing grunt work. Can we put the focus on Mr. Keliikoa and ask him a little bit about his job KAMELAMELA: - -Well actually, I want to ask him questions too, becauseI'm not too sure whether he finished making his statement. I want him to make his statement, and then I can ask him questions that's related to what he states and related to CHAIR: - -Okay, I'm sorry. Do you want to elaborate further on your statement —your accusations, fair treatment 2 -14 [sic.], fair treatment, and then conflict of interest. I didn't hear you say much about conflict of interest yet. GANIGAN: The conflict of interest is he's not training people in the County, and that's his regular job. That's what I was getting to when I got interrupted by Joe. So he's not doing his regular job. He's supposed to be doing that outside work taking people that he's supposed to be doing for free and taking them and charging them for monies that they're paying for, to be trained and coming back and getting audited, because he's the trainer that trained them outside, so they're going to get audited real fast. And then when he comes back and audits, they by -pass everybody in the baseyard because nobody has been trained. WJ: Can you —for my purposes, can you explain how you get promoted? They train you in doing what? GANIGAN: Different types of machinery, so like when the next guy stays home, you can take his place and get temporary assignment and take his job. and it's not happening, because WJ: - -and you're saying his job is to train people at the work site on how to use that machinery? 35