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CHAIR: So what's the fair treat —what would you say is the fair treatment issue. I
<br />mean, missed a lot of words, but one reason or the other, I mean,
<br />you're not there all the time, right, because-
<br />GANIGAN: - -Yeah. Because of conflict of interest with your job, with your outside work.
<br />CHAIR: That's conflict, what about fair treatment. You also have a fair treatment
<br />charge in your
<br />GANIGAN: - -Fair treatment isI feel I'm not getting fair treatment. I've , I've
<br />been by- passed, you know. He comes and trains those guys and whatever, and
<br />my original trainer used to come and spend almost a month in one baseyard.
<br />He could —you know, baseyard to baseyard. I started from , and I
<br />see that this guy wasn't even around in that time as a trainer. So, this guy
<br />would come and spend a month or so in every baseyard and make sure
<br />everybody's trainer on that machine, so when the next guy stays home, that
<br />guy can take his place and get temporary assignment, a higher pay, you know.
<br />And then nobody's hold back in the baseyard, you know. Because right now,
<br />guys aren't even trained. You know, this guy stays home and we can't do that
<br />now, we got to go —the boss got to go find someplace else to go and work,
<br />because nobody's audited to do machines.
<br />CHAIR: I think I get it. You guys got enough so we can put the focus on Mr. Keliikoa,
<br />or you want to
<br />KAMELAMELA: No, I still have questions, because, you know— again, he's basing it on
<br />information , but I've go to —I've just go to make sure that what
<br />he says has to do with him, okay. So, did you ask to get training-
<br />GANIGAN: - -yes
<br />KAMELAMELA: - -For the, no, no, no, for CDL training? Did you ask for that?
<br />GANIGAN: How can I ask for that? They don't
<br />KAMELAMELA: - -No, no, that
<br />GANIGAN: - -I can't go there. You have to start from the bottom, go up. They ain't going
<br />to just train me, just like that-
<br />KAMELAMELA: - -okay.
<br />GANIGAN: You have to put on the list, a list. You ask what you need to be trained, yes,
<br />and you tell your boss, okay. He comes to you with this paper and fills it out
<br />and says oh, okay, you need this, this, this, this training, okay. When the time
<br />comes, seven years later, you got no training.
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