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monies are generally raised by some people who have an interest in the <br />government, and Mr. Arakaki did not directly solicit any funds, nor did he <br />indirectly solicit funds. Those funds were solicited by friends and family <br />members, basically tied to the campaign, of which Mr. Oshiro, like I said, was <br />the treasurer. So there was no quid pro quo. It was purely to pay off a <br />campaign debt, and Mr. Arakaki —from the beginning, the campaign <br />committee was right. They should have been able to raise these funds, pay off <br />a prior campaign debt, and then was basically, purely a <br />responsibility of being able to run for office. I'd be happy to answer any <br />questions. <br />CHAIR KK: Thank you, Mr. De Lima. Do the members of the Board have any <br />WJ: - -Am I correct to assume, then, that the monies that were donated to the <br />DE LIMA: - -legal defense fund- <br />WJ: - -legal defense fund, was returned and subsequently put into the campaign <br />fund? <br />DE LIMA: No, it hasn't been returned yet. There is a —you know, I'm sorry, but it <br />probably didn't get into your package in time for you to review, because we <br />just submitted it I think yesterday, attaching a letter that was written to the <br />Campaign Spending Commission. It required that the money —the Campaign <br />Spending Commission is meeting right now, by the way, to act on this <br />proposal. But basically, within 30 days of the Campaign Commission's <br />meeting, which is today, the money has to be returned to the legal defense fund <br />contributors. And then they can in turn contribute it directly to the campaign, <br />so that's the representation being made to the Campaign Spending <br />Commission as well as to the Ethics Commission, of what—because that's the <br />best way to account for what it really is, which is campaign contributions. <br />WJ: So all the money will be returned within the next 30 days. <br />DE LIMA: Yes, sir. <br />WJ: And it'll be up to the donators what to do with it? <br />DE LIMA: Right. And we expect that they will comply with the—if they wish to <br />contribute to the campaign, they'll comply with the understanding that it has to <br />comply with the campaign spending limit. So for example, one of the <br />contributions was $2,500. Under the campaign spending limit, it can be only <br />$2,000. Everything else is within the campaign spending limit. <br />KI: I have no questions right now. <br />0 <br />