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BURNS: No. <br />CHAIR: No? <br />BURNS: No. I was testifying as an engineer that has to use that code in my practice <br />every day. I conduct studies and drainage studies for every single project I do, <br />and so the code was very important to my profession and what I do. And I <br />wanted to make sure that it stayed in line with what would protect public <br />health and safety. That was my reason for testifying. <br />CHAIR: I see. Question, John? <br />DILL: Did the Council solicit testimony from engineers to <br />BURNS: - -Well, Councilman Ford invited the Army Corps of Engineers, the National <br />Resource Conservation Service, and FEMA to present information. It wasn't <br />really testimony, it was <br />DILL: -- educational. <br />BURNS: Educational. There was videos of flooding. It was, you know, it was very—it <br />was I think six hours worth of presentation by engineers. And that's where <br />Mr. Jacobson made the statement that he didn't know much about engineering. <br />DILL: Right. <br />BURNS: So, I mean —it's fine if he knows what engineers do and how we practice. <br />He's —it's my understanding that he's a nurse. And he has to take a test, and <br />he has to get licensed, so he knows that professionals get registered, get <br />licensed, by this State to protect public health and safety. I don't think that his <br />ignorance of what professionals do excused his saying, oh, I don't really know <br />what the code of ethics, or what engineers' duty to public health, safety, and <br />welfare is. I think it was a statement made specifically to discredit my <br />testimony and the testimony of the other engineers, and I just don't think that <br />that's very ethical or —it's not going to lead to a good code or good policies for <br />this County. I think we all need to work together. And before I submitted this <br />complaint, I did send a letter to the chairman of the Council, asking that he ask <br />his members to treat the engineering professionals with more courtesy. So it's <br />not like I, you know, filed this before trying other ways to try to, you know, <br />make it so that all these statements don't get out and then get printed in the <br />paper. <br />DILL: Did you get a response from Councilman Hoffmann? <br />BURNS: No. <br />SHARPLESS: You wrote a letter. Could we get a copy of the letter? <br />26 <br />