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Chair: This is what I am looking at here. <br />Strauss: It is not that exhibit. <br />Chair: It's not. <br />Strauss: It is not here, let me go back here for the record. <br />Hale: Yes, that is part of Exhibit 19. <br />Chair: Thank you for clarifying that. Now, to continue with the questioning. I don't <br />think you answered my original question, in that how people were doing her <br />personal work for her in the office, but allow me to get back to that. You said in <br />April, because of the tax deadline, there was a lot of scurrying going on in the <br />office, and you had already fallen out of favor. But that is hard for me to <br />comprehend when on April 23'd, your boss gave you a letter with glowing remarks <br />and saying that you get a pay raise. So how did you feel you were falling out of <br />favor? <br />Hale: Well, that came up —was exactly April 23'd when Emily called. Actually, we were <br />in her office with Gwen, in her particular office, and she brought up the fact that <br />we worked so hard. And I was a bit disturbed that day, because there was a lot of <br />additional granting favors, whispering. It was going on for weeks. On that <br />particular day when she asked, told us actually, she didn't ask us, she told that she <br />was going to ask for a step -up raise, I responded with why? Because we haven't <br />done anything terrific, we were learning the process. Her answer was that she was <br />going to give both Gwen and I a raise. I distinctly said, why Gwen? She's not <br />able to type more than ten words, and that's okay, but when we need to type, we <br />need to type, we need to make deadlines. She's not able to compose a letter, she <br />does a lot of other things but work. Emily's reply was, "Well how many people do <br />all these things for me, my personal things for me ?" I looked at her and I said it <br />really looks like a Mancho case to me. I said, Emily, we don't deserve a raise. <br />We haven't learned the process yet and we have a community that is waiting for us <br />to do something. We can't be asking for a raise. We already, I thought, were paid <br />pretty nice. We have a situation here that people depend on us, we cannot be <br />getting raises for jobs we cannot do. I was surprised when the letter arrived, and it <br />arrived on time as far as I was concerned. I didn't know that I was going to be let <br />go from the job after I was praised. I was praised in the letter, but I never was <br />praised in the workplace. It was a difficult thing. The first thing I thought was to <br />give, as a good way to give Gwen a raise. Then the blog comes out that they both <br />was dissatisfied with my work. Now, how would they know what my work is? <br />I carried both of their work. I have the experience in the office, I was fine. But to <br />have learned this from the blog, from Hunter Bishop, very early in the morning, <br />was very difficult to take. But coming back, the morning that he told me, this was <br />May 71h, the one thing that saved me from embarrassment was the letter that I was <br />not expecting. That letter I learned was typed by Maxine Pacheco, who works in <br />the Legislature Auditor Office. I called her to find out who might be writing this <br />17 <br />