2007-07-11 Board of Ethics Minutes Regular Session

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The next time —and that time I was ushered out of the office by Barbara Hale in a very generous way. At first, pardon me, to back up a little bit. Barbara Hale came when I was sitting there talking to Councilwoman Nae`ole. Barbara Hale rushed in and said I think this is something I need to take notes about. So she took whatever notes she needed to take, and she ushered me out of the office, and to the elevator, and thanked me very, very much and told me I was welcome in the office at any time. The next time I came to Councilwoman Nae`ole's office was to talk about two bills that were on the agenda. Councilwoman Nae`ole was in support of those bills, and they had to do with —I think it was a storage facility in Pdhoa that would be– [timer goes off to indicate three - minute time limit] —Okay, that would be— Chair: You need to summarize real quick. Kahn- Langer: Okay. Chair: And get specifically to the point. Kahn- Langer: Okay, specifically the next time I came into the office, I was in opposition to where Councilwoman Nae`ole was. Barbara Hale ushered me into a conference room and for an hour - and -a -half went through the strangest, wildest series of discussions. First of all, I was told that whatever Councilwoman Nae `ole and I — Chair: I am sorry, I am going to have to interrupt. Do you have a specific point you are trying to get at here? Kahn- Langer: Yes, my specific point is this —that Barbara Hale operated as if she was the council person. Her behavior was abrupt and rude, and when I left after an hour - and -a -half, I came home and specifically told my husband at no time would I ever go into a meeting with her again, without having someone else present to record what went on, and that I would only go as well with a tape recorder in hand. Thank you very much. Chair: Okay, thank you very much for coming in. Athena Peanut. Athena? Peanut: Aloha, kdkou. Good morning. I am very, very close to Emily Nae`ole. I am hdnai'd into the family. We talk an awful lot in the evenings on the telephone, so I know I've been privy to a lot of information about what has passed during her, during the campaign. Not so much during the campaign, but definitely since she has been in office. It was my distinct impression that Barbara was setting her up for disaster from the very beginning. I let her know that, but I didn't harp on it. I understood. She was a newbie, and she was definitely in a disadvantaged position. She was dealing in a realm that she had never entered before, and she depended very much on Barbara, and Barbara led her to do some very,