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Campaign Spending Commission. I understand that the Campaign <br />Spending Commission has really clear, cookbook kind of rules about how <br />you keep records, how those records are supposed to be stored, how <br />frequently reports are to be turned in, what those natures of those reports <br />are. I also know by looking at the records that immediately after an <br />election, that a new cycle of aggregating money begins, that politicians <br />begin to accumulate money for their next run. <br />CHAIR: Sir- <br />ACHMAT: - -and this (indiscernible) a little bit on the Nae`ole thing— <br />CHAIR: - -I must, I must interrupt you again. None of these people were on the <br />Board at that time- <br />ACHMAT: -- Right, and that's why I'm telling you -- (indiscernible, as speaking at <br />same time as Chair) <br />CHAIR: - -I wasI was the only Board member. I was not the chair, nor was I the <br />vice chair. And I agree with what you're saying. <br />ACHMAT: Okay. I just want one more —let me finish this (indiscernible, as <br />speaking at same time as Chair) <br />CHAIR: - -No, with Mr. Arakaki, I think we'reI think we're done on that issue. <br />But if you'd like to speak about Mrs. Nae`ole <br />ACHMAT: - -let me just finish, though, that after lunch <br />CHAIR: -- because normally we limit these testimonies- <br />ACHMAT: - -okay— <br />CHAIR: - -to three minutes. <br />ACHMAT: But I was saying, at the end of the meeting, and this is —for the other <br />members, they can go and read these minutes, in the November minutes. <br />At the end of that meeting, it was Mr. deLima who suggested what the <br />motion should be, and that motion was carried. <br />CHAIR: That I disagree with you on. I was there- <br />ACHMAT: - -You might want to read the transcript. I read it this morning -- <br />CHAIR: - -I was personally there- <br />ACHMAT: - -page 24 <br />