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CHAIR: Oh, I'm sorry -- <br />LLOYD ROBERTS: I'm Laurie Lloyd - Roberts, the owner of <br />LCM.• -- You're the owner? Welcome- <br />LLOYD- <br />ROBERTS: - -the store in yeah. I know Rene, and I know that Rene can have a <br />disposition to be very abrasive <br />CHAIR: - -On a personal level you now her <br />LLOYD-ROBERTS: - -to be very abrasive. And, do I think she could tone herself down? <br />Yes, I do. I understand her dedication to what she views as an issue, you know, and I understand <br />that and I agree with it wholeheartedly. But things also have to change, and there's certain <br />things that have to, you know, work within that to make things work. And so my, you know, my <br />issue was as I was upset when Linda wrote the first one, having been redlined by the second <br />bank, because my address is 96778, my zip code, that I was unfortunately, I started the <br />business on credit cards, so that was starting to catch up with me. And so, you know, I was <br />trying to get these loans to—and nobody would (inaudible). So it was very, very rough. So my <br />thing is, on Rene, I talked to her, I'm pono with her. I don't know should she be punished? <br />Should she be talked to? <br />CHAIR: Well, there's no punishment associated with this, and it's just a matter of if the <br />Board decides there was a violation. But there is no consequence or punishment, other than <br />finding that she was or wasn't. <br />LLOYD-ROBERTS: Yeah. And then like Linda said, I think she took the whole -- Linda's <br />letter, and used it for her agenda, you know, to speak on the issue, which there is more to it <br />than what she stated. It was, in a way, you know, like targeting somebody and trying to make an <br />example out of them, as opposed to (inaudible). <br />CHAIR: Was it personal? Does she not like you? <br />LLOYD-ROBERTS: No, as far as I know. I mean, last time I talked to her was at the <br />Pahoa Community Bazaar. And I went up to her, actually, to say that, you know, I didn't agree <br />with how she offended me and my friend, and that she could have been a little less abrasive on <br />that level, but that I understood her issues, some of them, and agreed with her, but there 's others <br />that I disagree with her. And she proceeded to try to figure out who turned her in. I said I don't <br />know, and that's not an issue. <br />CHAIR: And did you at all find the letter threatening? <br />LLOYD-ROBERTS: Well, it changed the scope of things for me, I have to admit that. <br />You know, one of the things she did say in the letter was that I really wasn't trying to get <br />around anything, so to speak. When I first opened that business, because it was a pet store and I <br />sold pet supplies as well as feed, and that's ag one, I was told by people that it's not an issue. So <br />I didn't do anything. And then somebody let me know that, yeah, it is commercial so it could be <br />an issue. So I called the Planning Department and spoke to (inaudible), and he sent me <br />7 <br />