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CHAIR: I see. <br />YAGONG: But 1 understood why you're here today, Mr. Chair. 'Thank you. <br />CHAIR: And let me go back to when you first did your presentation, and let me ask you <br />some questions. First off, who is Steve, that you - <br />YAGONG: - -I'm sorry, he's my council aide. That's Steve, that handed you the paper. <br />CHAIR: So Steve was the one that was at the Tribune - Herald, that asked for the ad to be <br />spruced up, that- <br />YAGONG: - -Yes. <br />CHAIR: Okay. That's Steve. Got it. <br />YAGONG: With my direction. <br />CHAIR: Got it. You know when this first came up, this entire issue first came up, and <br />you thought, and maybe other people thought around you, that it might be problematic <br />ethically —why didn't you, or why didn't anyone advise you, to petition the Board of <br />Ethics to give an informal advisory opinion way back then? <br />YAGONG: Well I think what happened was, I first got wind that there was some <br />concern with it —with Mr. Ashida, I think you had it published in the last Ethics Board <br />meeting, as far as his correspondence with me. He did talk to me regarding that, and <br />what I did was I went to my County Clerk, Casey Jarman, and we spoke on that. And we <br />did have different opinions in regards to Mr. Ashida's. So for me personally, you know, I <br />think it was —it was being discussed with the property authority. I know Lincoln is the <br />Corporation Counsel for the ethics commission, and at that point in time, if there was <br />something that needed to be brought forward —you 're asking me why didn't 1 ask you <br />that question? <br />CHAIR: Yes. <br />YAGONG: Well, first of all, at that point in time I didn't really agree with what Mr. <br />Ashida had brought forward to me as an opinion, and my County Clerk did concur with <br />that. So for me, I felt I was still on the right track as far as what I'm doing, you know, <br />and what happened was —and that's a good question, Mr. Joseph. What happened was, <br />when the inquiry came in from Mr. Ashida, what I also didn't understand at that point in <br />time was there was this incredible you know, politics is pretty crazy sometimes —there <br />was this incredible wave of people saying that, you know, that Yagong is doing all this <br />stuff in the paper because he's going to run for mayor, you know, which was absurd. But <br />that's politics. People are going to say that. And it was at that time, Mr. Joseph, that <br />what I did was — because of this issue, because 1 wasn 't going to run for mayor, but <br />because of this, I wanted to put an end to that rumor. That's why I called the West <br />Hawai `i Today reporter and I told him exactly that I am not running for mayor. It was a <br />front page headline news in the Tribune - Herald and West Hawai `i Today, and the reason <br />9 <br />